Fraser Signs for Bournemouth

[stand_free]

I may be wrong but I was under the impression that the longest deal you are legally allowed to offer a 17 year old is a two year deal

 

Correct. SFA rule

 

Huns Got Done For It

[fatshaft]

Bear in mind that Man Utd had him watched...most think he will end up at a Wigan/Swansea type club...let's hang back on the slating of Fraser until we find out who he is going to

WTF are you on about? Makes no difference where he goes.

[Redstar]

What difference does it make who he goes to?

If Man Utd come calling you don't knock them back...as before... let's see where he ends up before savaging the poor cu*t

[fine-n-dandy]

If I had the ability that Ryan has and 'support Aberdeen' as he says, I would have faith in my ability and sign a 2/3 year contract and move on in a year or so, giving the club I support a tidy transfer fee. He obviously has no feelings for the club that has supported him and helped him get where he is.

 

I don't want to see him play for the Dons again, he has shown no respect for the club. He can train with the youth boys and play in the youth team the rest of the season and even that is being generous.

 

 

I think it's safe to say he doesn't support Aberdeen.

 

None of us at that age would refuse our first real contract offer from the club we support. Plain & simple.

 

If he was a Dandy, he'd be signing for sure & staying with the likes of Anderson etc. for at least a full season at HIS club.

[fatshaft]

If Man Utd come calling you don't knock them back...as before... let's see where he ends up before savaging the poor cu*t

Erm hello, earth to thickstar, no-one's come calling, he's knocked back his contract offer so that he can go elsewhere regardless of who that ends up being. Now his agent will tout him to every corner of the country.

[stand_free]

If Man Utd come calling you don't knock them back...as before... let's see where he ends up before savaging the poor cu*t

 

Where do you draw the line on who it is acceptable for him to join?

[Redstar]

WTF are you on about? Makes no difference where he goes.

Eh...if a big EPL makes you an offer you take it...If it turns out to be a Championship club fair doos give the cu*t a kicking

[fatshaft]

Where do you draw the line on who it is acceptable for him to join?

There is no line. You either re-sign, or you're a disloyal ungrateful little prick.

[fine-n-dandy]

Correct. SFA rule

 

Huns Got Done For It

 

 

Ah so it's three years though. I thought it was two years.

 

Club should have done a lot better then in that case

[Redstar]

Erm hello, earth to thickstar, no-one's come calling, he's knocked back his contract offer so that he can go elsewhere regardless of who that ends up being. Now his agent will tout him to every corner of the country.

To quote Sheepiekev...how naive are you...of course someone's "tapped" him up

[fatshaft]

Eh...if a big EPL makes you an offer you take it...If it turns out to be a Championship club fair doos give the cu*t a kicking

absolute bollocks. A second division guff team can offer 10x or more what he can get here, but he would be due a kicking for that? You're a gormless twat sometimes all the time

[Redstar]

There is no line. You either re-sign, or you're a disloyal ungrateful little prick.

Kev would be having a field day...parochial dullard

[fatshaft]

Kev would be having a field day...parochial dullard

LOL, I don't think commuting from ABZ to a locked down compound in Baku makes you cosmopolitan, you barely literate gype.

[V for Vendetta]

I may be wrong but I was under the impression that the longest deal you are legally allowed to offer a 17 year old is a two year deal

 

I know your just point out the facts to keep me roght, but it doesn't really change my point.

 

This is not a difficult principle for the club:

 

As soon as the rules allow put a reasonable length of deal in front of such players. On a reasonable salary. Include a release clause if it makes them happier. Do all this before they establish themselves are first team players. Keep them back from first team games until such time as they can sign a proper if need be.

 

To do anything else is asking to lose those players and with them the money spent.

 

We invest a fortune and a lot of time in developing these "assets" what business would then leave them available to walk away for little recompense just as they reach the cusp of realising that potential.

 

Its very poor in my opinion. There's little point spending money on developing youngs lads if we don't have the savvy to keep them for a while and/or get a good fee for them. Its just bad business.

 

If we are so pish at this we'd be better off buying 18 year old players with the development money and then at least we might get fees for those. I'm not saying I want them to do that but if we are going to watch every good young player walk out the door then the money spent on youth development is wasted. Simple.

[Redstar]

LOL, I don't think commuting from ABZ to a locked down compound in Baku makes you cosmopolitan, you barely literate gype.

You have no idea what you are talking about

[fatshaft]

You have no idea what you are talking about

You mean they let you run free over there? Crazy times my friend, crazy times.

[Redstar]

You mean they let you run free over there? Crazy times my friend, crazy times.

...do you actually think that he hasn't agreed verbally to join an EPL club?

[The Boofon]

LOL, I don't think commuting from ABZ to a locked down compound in Baku makes you cosmopolitan, you barely literate gype.

 

 

You have no idea what you are talking about

 

 

You mean they let you run free over there? Crazy times my friend, crazy times.

 

 

...do you actually think that he hasn't agreed verbally to join an EPL club?

 

 

I love you two.

 

Best partnership on the hat by miles.

[fatshaft]

...do you actually think that he hasn't agreed verbally to join an EPL club?

I have no idea, but it makes not a bit of difference who's tapped him up (or not), his disloyalty after half a dozen games,and two full 90 minutes is appalling, for a ald who claimed to be a Dons fan. I hope Russell rips him a new arsehole tomorrow.

[DandyDon KD]

This has jut turned into a verbal battle between fatshaft and redstar and everything that fatshaft has said (on this thread) I agree with.

[swifty]

If I had the ability that Ryan has and 'support Aberdeen' as he says, I would have faith in my ability and sign a 2/3 year contract and move on in a year or so, giving the club I support a tidy transfer fee. He obviously has no feelings for the club that has supported him and helped him get where he is.

 

I don't want to see him play for the Dons again, he has shown no respect for the club. He can train with the youth boys and play in the youth team the rest of the season and even that is being generous.

 

Ryan Fraser "supported" a team that no longer exist.

[Redstar]

This has jut turned into a verbal battle between fatshaft and redstar and everything that fatshaft has said (on this thread) I agree with.

[fine-n-dandy]

I know your just point out the facts to keep me roght, but it doesn't really change my point.

 

This is not a difficult principle for the club:

 

As soon as the rules allow put a reasonable length of deal in front of such players. On a reasonable salary. Include a release clause if it makes them happier. Do all this before they establish themselves are first team players. Keep them back from first team games until such time as they can sign a proper if need be.

 

To do anything else is asking to lose those players and with them the money spent.

 

We invest a fortune and a lot of time in developing these "assets" what business would then leave them available to walk away for little recompense just as they reach the cusp of realising that potential.

 

Its very poor in my opinion. There's little point spending money on developing youngs lads if we don't have the savvy to keep them for a while and/or get a good fee for them. Its just bad business.

 

If we are so pish at this we'd be better off buying 18 year old players with the development money and then at least we might get fees for those. I'm not saying I want them to do that but if we are going to watch every good young player walk out the door then the money spent on youth development is wasted. Simple.

 

 

For what it's worth, I do agree with you & I'd guess that this is basically what we tried to do with Grimmer but unfortunately his head had already been turned.

 

Agents bribing parents etc. hold all the cards & are the scum of the game.

[fine-n-dandy]

Ryan Fraser "supported" a team that no longer exist.

 

 

I would never wish a career threatening injury on the lad UNLESS he signed for that disgusting club. the rangers. If he ever signs for them then I wish him nothing but misery

[swifty]

I would never wish a career threatening injury on the lad UNLESS he signed for that disgusting club. the rangers. If he ever signs for them then I wish him nothing but misery

 

Dinna think the Zombies are allowed to sign any players for the foreseeable, so no need to panic.

 

[DD1903]

I know your just point out the facts to keep me roght, but it doesn't really change my point.

 

This is not a difficult principle for the club:

 

As soon as the rules allow put a reasonable length of deal in front of such players. On a reasonable salary. Include a release clause if it makes them happier. Do all this before they establish themselves are first team players. Keep them back from first team games until such time as they can sign a proper if need be.

 

To do anything else is asking to lose those players and with them the money spent.

 

We invest a fortune and a lot of time in developing these "assets" what business would then leave them available to walk away for little recompense just as they reach the cusp of realising that potential.

 

Its very poor in my opinion. There's little point spending money on developing youngs lads if we don't have the savvy to keep them for a while and/or get a good fee for them. Its just bad business.

 

If we are so pish at this we'd be better off buying 18 year old players with the development money and then at least we might get fees for those. I'm not saying I want them to do that but if we are going to watch every good young player walk out the door then the money spent on youth development is wasted. Simple.

 

Why offer long term deals to players who haven't established themselves in the first team though ? They might be utter root when they make the step up, meaning we're stuck with a youngster who is pish. It works both ways.

 

As long as English football is being pumped full of sky cash we will be stuck in this situation - a few hundred thousand is peanuts to most champ and all epl clubs. To us it's a fortune. They know it as well.

[Bobbyskitter]

sportsound reporting that Fraser has said he never stated he wanted to move on to play at a higher level and is disappointed in the clubs handling of the situation.

[boboisared]

Ryan Fraser "supported" a team that no longer exist.

Really?

[dervish]

This has jut turned into a verbal battle between fatshaft and redstar and everything that fatshaft has said (on this thread) I agree with.

 

Me too. If only I had found out how to block.

 

Anyways just a shit world.

• Unless AFC have really offered really low, not their fault.
• Unless Fraser hasn't been offered a better opportunity somewhere else, not his fault.

Fact is EPL etc. can afford to take on 10 Frasers if one makes it then it's good business. Unfortunately that leaves 9 great prospects near fucked few years down the line. Ok yeah some will go on to be ok, but it'll surely be less than if they kept developing. Agents, silly cash and shite regulations are to blame.

[robbo]

those saying its aberdeens fault not offering him enough money....if only you knew how much he was offered to stay. youd be fucking sick

 

goodbye ryan, your talent will be missed but your attitude wont