For Fecks Sake Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 12 hours ago, CCB III said: But you understand that the NHS is being sold off by the UK gov anyway? It's not inconceivable that in the future we'll have to pay for private care because the standard they'll let it drop to will be so low. You do understand that it was Blair's Labour government that started the whole privatisation of the NHS anyway? I mean, don't let facts get in the way of a good story now will you. Every political party knows the NHS is a money pit in its current form but are too shit scared of introducing sweeping changes due to how the voter perceive it. I have private medical insurance and I find it crap that I can get most treatments in a matter of days or weeks privately or wait 6 + months on the NHS for the same treatment AND it will probably be the same doctor/surgeon/consultant involved with both ☹️ Link to comment
For Fecks Sake Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, caledonia said: We cant get independence because two ferries were over budget. Yet its fine to stay in a union that gave millions to a ferry company without boats. unionist argument 101 I would argue that that's the tact adopted by every political party and their followers, yes even the SNP. Brinng up any short falling, issues, problem or whatever and they immediately retort with "but but but what about...." And to think we take the piss out of the old firm about it yet continue with that rationale in politics. Another reason why your average person has been turned off by politics. 1 Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 I’d fix the NHS overnight. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 A party of sex pests. Nae wonder the tims lap them up. 1 Link to comment
For Fecks Sake Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said: I was correct. Pendant! Link to comment
For Fecks Sake Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, caledonia said: Erm no it's not but keep the crap memes coming cashless boy ? Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 tbh voting SNP in a general election is pretty fucking pointless if your then going to moan about The Tories for 4 years. 1 Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 2 hours ago, BitWait said: There is no evidence of future costs to do anything , only estimates and they can go way over ( see ferries ) or be delivered on time within budget , but bankruptcy within 5 years sounds about right to me. An Irish man told me this at work one day as they had been through it and general opinion in Eire is that Scots are crazy to go for independence. Strange that they don't seem to be clamouring to re-join the UK then.... 1 Link to comment
Joe pike Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, Dons79 said: You do realise it was the Scot’s who invented the Bank of England? William Paterson Emma Harper SNP ‘s view on the Scottish currency.In 2019 she downplayed the issues around creating a new currency in an independent Scotland to a BBC audience, remarking that her recent holiday to Mexico demonstrated that, "plastic translates anywhere where you are"; she then claimed Scottish issued bank notes were currently being exchanged for more than English ones on the foreign exchange markets, which indicated that (in the future) "Our Scottish pounds have the propensity to be really really strong".[5][6][7] 1 Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, For Fecks Sake said: You do understand that it was Blair's Labour government that started the whole privatisation of the NHS anyway? 19 minutes ago, For Fecks Sake said: Brinng up any short falling, issues, problem or whatever and they immediately retort with "but but but what about...." Link to comment
Edwin Starr Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 53 minutes ago, Edwin Starr said: Not what the bank of England boss Carney said . He would know for sure ? Did you lads not hear what he said . It ends we would be skint in 5 years argument . Link to comment
Joe pike Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Edwin Starr said: Did you lads not hear what he said . It ends we would be skint in 5 years argument . Surely you don’t accept what the English Establishment say though. Link to comment
Edwin Starr Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Joe pike said: Surely you don’t accept what the English Establishment say though. No but when the bank of England boss comes out with these figures then it's good news for Scotland unless your a yoondum.? Link to comment
Joe pike Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Edwin Starr said: No but when the bank of England boss comes out with these figures then it's good news for Scotland unless your a yoondum.? No but yes Link to comment
For Fecks Sake Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Redforever86 said: One is addressing a falsehood, the other what aboutery, it's nae difficult to understand min ? Link to comment
CCB III Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 33 minutes ago, For Fecks Sake said: You do understand that it was Blair's Labour government that started the whole privatisation of the NHS anyway? I mean, don't let facts get in the way of a good story now will you. Every political party knows the NHS is a money pit in its current form but are too shit scared of introducing sweeping changes due to how the voter perceive it. I have private medical insurance and I find it crap that I can get most treatments in a matter of days or weeks privately or wait 6 + months on the NHS for the same treatment AND it will probably be the same doctor/surgeon/consultant involved with both ☹️ I do understand that, where have I denied it? I hate Tony Blair. I've never denied the fact that New Labour (tories) got the ball rolling on that. But, consecutive Tory governments have absolutely (deliberately) decimated it. That's no story. That's fact. Does it matter who did it first? Does Blair doing it first absolve the Tories of responsibility? What a thick argument to present. "it's a money pit" is the POV of someone who can't understand an organisation existing not to make money. It's not a "pit" because that infers it has no use. A properly funded NHS is good for everyone. Aside from American investors and the Tory rodents you vote for who seek to profit off of it. Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Saving the ‘lives’ of those over the age of 75 is ridiculous. Link to comment
Edwin Starr Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Joe pike said: No but yes Do you not believe Carney when asked about Scotland's wealth or are you one those Scots who'd rather talk down Scotland? Link to comment
caledonia Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, For Fecks Sake said: Erm no it's not but keep the crap memes coming cashless boy ? Knew this would rile the right people Link to comment
Edwin Starr Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, milne_afc said: Saving the ‘lives’ of those over the age of 75 is ridiculous. Fk me I better start living then ??? Link to comment
For Fecks Sake Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 22 minutes ago, Joe pike said: Emma Harper SNP ‘s view on the Scottish currency.In 2019 she downplayed the issues around creating a new currency in an independent Scotland to a BBC audience, remarking that her recent holiday to Mexico demonstrated that, "plastic translates anywhere where you are"; she then claimed Scottish issued bank notes were currently being exchanged for more than English ones on the foreign exchange markets, which indicated that (in the future) "Our Scottish pounds have the propensity to be really really strong".[5][6][7] Using an analogy of going on holiday to Mexico by an SNP MSP in an article using the words "claimed", "indicated" and propensity (look the word up @Redforever86 Is not exactly filling me with confidence. What we need is one of those economic powerhouse voices (the kind an independent Scotland will employ and need only ONCE we get independence according to some) comments on it. Then you may get more people paying the topic the attention it duly deserves. Link to comment
Joe pike Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Edwin Starr said: Do you not believe Carney when asked about Scotland's wealth or are you one those Scots who'd rather talk down Scotland? Not at all but you like most nationalists are selective with who you believe. Link to comment
For Fecks Sake Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, CCB III said: I do understand that, where have I denied it? I hate Tony Blair. I've never denied the fact that New Labour (tories) got the ball rolling on that. But, consecutive Tory governments have absolutely (deliberately) decimated it. That's no story. That's fact. Does it matter who did it first? Does Blair doing it first absolve the Tories of responsibility? What a thick argument to present. "it's a money pit" is the POV of someone who can't understand an organisation existing not to make money. It's not a "pit" because that infers it has no use. A properly funded NHS is good for everyone. Aside from American investors and the Tory rodents you vote for who seek to profit off of it. Ooft biggest bite of the day, cannot believe you fell for that ? @Kelt 1 Link to comment
BitWait Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 54 minutes ago, milne_afc said: And we’re grateful for the evidence you’re providing. " I noticed " requires no evidence. Just an observation I made amongst friends , family , work colleagues and going to various pubs. Link to comment
Simply Red Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 North East tory snobs with a few quid in their pocket?as bad a human as any hun 2 Link to comment
caledonia Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, Betty Swallicks said: tbh voting SNP in a general election is pretty fucking pointless if your then going to moan about The Tories for 4 years. Thats why i vote Alba See what you mean though its much the same as many on here who say they dont favour any side but then proceed to post hundreds of posts only calling out SNP. Or they start a post with “i voted for independence last time” but Or fact check only one side why deny what you believe in example is joe pike i never agree with him mostly but at least he nails his colours to the mast for feck sake on the other hand is a raving Tory and tries to hide it people on here can use the search function Link to comment
For Fecks Sake Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Just now, Simply Red said: North East tory snobs with a few quid in their pocket?as bad a human as any hun Why does it always come down to how much cash someone has and who they vote for or their political swaying? Can almost sound of someone being a bit jealous like ? 1 Link to comment
For Fecks Sake Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 minute ago, caledonia said: Or fact check only one side When you going to start doing it then? Link to comment
Edwin Starr Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Joe pike said: Not at all but you like most nationalists are selective with who you believe. I know the Tories lie about Scotland's wealth they have to. For the record Carney was under oath at the time and the question came from an SNP MP. Have you read the McCrone report? The London Westminster government hid our true wealth what's changed . They are taking you for a fool even now after what that lot have done you're still backing them , where's your pride.?? Unionism is bad for Scotland but you lot will lose your beloved union soon enough.??? Link to comment
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