The Village Seagull Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Oh the irony.The Irony Sheik at it again. Link to comment
The Village Seagull Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Die soon snowflakeI have expired, unexpired, been Easterfied and Uneasterfied. I'm basically immortal. 1 Link to comment
dj_bollocks Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 If the Liberals and Labour worked together in England and Wales as a Lib/Lab coalition then there might be hope... SNP will nail it in Scotland so could be part of that... Just not the fucking Tories... ABC... Anyone but the Conservatives... Link to comment
E-P-K Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Pro independence and anti EU, to vote SNP or not. Will be a decision many will have to make, myself included. Link to comment
E-P-K Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 If the Liberals and Labour worked together in England and Wales as a Lib/Lab coalition then there might be hope... SNP will nail it in Scotland so could be part of that... Just not the fucking Tories... ABC... Anyone but the Conservatives...I think the SNP will perform a fair bit worse than in 2015. Link to comment
The Village Seagull Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Basically a fucking fruit loopLet's have a hug party. 1 Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Pro independence and anti EU, to vote SNP or not. Will be a decision many will have to make, myself included. An independent Scotland outside the EU is a possibility with an SNP vote. They wouldnt be in power in Scotland forever and even some of the SNP are looking at other alternatives.An independent Scotland with everyone voting Labour, Lib Dem or Conservative is not possible. One victory at a time. Link to comment
caledonia Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The Conservatives are far to cocky here everyone thinks its won already i am not so sureWhen you put Corybin up for a vote he seems to do well with the man in the street (its the biased press and his own party that have turned on him although he has in my opinion been to soft on a lot of things) As for the snp if it were me i would stand on one thing only independence if we get majority of MPs and more than 50% vote in ScotlandAlso do not think Labour in England would rule out an agreement with SNP so quick this time 1 Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Behold the balanced world view of the SNP voter. Its basically that of the labour voter of 30 years ago, clad in tartan. They even give us the occasional mention of Thatcher, just to prove the point. Speaking of education, do you know Scotlands international ranking for the quality of its schools has fallen to its worst ever rating under the SNP? http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38207729 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/06/snp-fire-scottish-education-system-records-worst-ever-rating/ Yet, people want to reward them for making our schools worse. This is what happens when people dont use their head to vote.That is one interpretation of the BBC article at least - I won't stoop to reading the Torygraph. Another interpretation would be that the results in all areas were declining sharply when the SNP came to power. They then either reversed or slowed the decline for a period before austerity and budget cuts had their impact. The graphs would back this analysis. Also worth noting that the countries above us in most measures include Ireland, Norway, Finland and Estonia. All of which are small independent North European countries all in or at least closely aligned with the EU. I bet Greece and Spain have seen their standards fall sharply over the same period Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The Conservatives are far to cocky here everyone thinks its won already i am not so sureWhen you put Corybin up for a vote he seems to do well with the man in the street (its the biased press and his own party that have turned on him although he has in my opinion been to soft on a lot of things) As for the snp if it were me i would stand on one thing only independence if we get majority of MPs and more than 50% vote in ScotlandAlso do not think Labour in England would rule out an agreement with SNP so quick this timeThe Liberals will do better- they lost a lot of votes through association with the Tories in coalition- a high proportion of the votes they got before were clearly tactical stop the Tories votes. People are starting to realise the Tories on their own is a nightmare and the tactical vote will return Link to comment
The Lighthouse Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I struggle to understand why so many Scots seem to be obsessed with maintaining the Union. Do we want to be treated with utter contempt by English politicians (Labour are / were just as bad as the Tories)? Let`s be bold and make our own decisions just like...Finland, Ireland, Denmark, Croatia and Norway. None of them appear to be "too wee" or "too stupid" to run their own affairs. If we continually allow ourselves to be controlled by a party that has no mandate in Scotland it says a lot about our lack of ambition and self-respect. 2 1 Link to comment
Suspect Device Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I struggle to understand why so many Scots seem to be obsessed with maintaining the Union. Do we want to be treated with utter contempt by English politicians (Labour are / were just as bad as the Tories)? Let`s be bold and make our own decisions just like...Finland, Ireland, Denmark, Croatia and Norway. None of them appear to be "too wee" or "too stupid" to run their own affairs. If we continually allow ourselves to be controlled by a party that has no mandate in Scotland it says a lot about our lack of ambition and self-respect. If and when we get independence then we'll just be treated with utter contempt by our central belt politicians. Link to comment
The Village Seagull Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Snap electionCrackle electionPop Election 1 Link to comment
The Lighthouse Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Snap electionCrackle electionPop ElectionOne has to admire your analytical approach to these matters. Link to comment
The Lighthouse Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 If and when we get independence then we'll just be treated with utter contempt by our central belt politicians.There may be an element of truth to that but still a far better option surely...even more so for those of us based south of Perth Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 If and when we get independence then we'll just be treated with utter contempt by our central belt politicians.Total garbage. Aberdonians have such an unnecessary chip on their shoulder. Link to comment
The Village Seagull Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Total garbage. Aberdonians have such an unnecessary chip on their shoulder.We used to have fish on the other shoulder until Westminster took that away from us. 1 Link to comment
The Village Seagull Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 That's rich coming from a dundonian, timex chip, ncr chip, oil industry chip, DC Thomson chip,hahahahah Laughing out lol! Joke's on that guy! Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Total garbage. Aberdonians have such an unnecessary chip on their shoulder. With good reason. Aberdeen has been the bread basket of Scotland for decades yet has been sorely underfunded. Shit roads, infrastructure, lower than average investment by both parliaments... We pulled Thatcher out of the shite, paid for the upgrading of Glasgow and the decade of investment Dundee has had and in return we get a city deal 20 years too late and millions short of whats needed. Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Fits funny MT. Billions in tax has been raised yearly for close to 30 years from work carried out in and offshore Aberdeen. None of it invested back in the city by Westminster or Holyrood. Less spent per head by Holyrood in Aberdeen than Glasgow and Dundee. All facts. Link to comment
robbojunior Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 We need Labour and Corbo, guys If you are clever.Agreed. Shame the mongo daily mail masses will vote for more Tory punishment Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 We need Labour and Corbo, guys If you are clever. If voting Labour wasnt going to be a complete waste of a vote up here then I might just to have a decent chance of ousting the torys. Its a waste though and opening up the door for more tory cunts to get in. Its SNP or Tory in Scotland, any other vote is a waste. 1 Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 No one has ever explained to me adequately why revenue from the North Sea oil is Aberdeen's? Fair enough Aberdeen is close to it all but it's had the benefits from employment, why should it get an unequal share of any other revenue. No one can tell me Dundee is better invested in than Aberdeen(and nor should it be) Link to comment
Clydeside_Sheep Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Pretty astute move from May. She has everything to gain and probably will increase her majority. At the same time she strips her opponents of their weapon of saying "she wasnt elected" and also can state that the public support her brexit direction. Labour will probably do poorly, given they are a total joke. Dim Lems are irrelevant anyway. As the SNP have the vast majority of scottish seats already, they have very little to gain and everything to lose (I expect another strong showing, but wouldn't be surprised if they lost a few seats). I like Theresa May. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 With good reason. Aberdeen has been the bread basket of Scotland for decades yet has been sorely underfunded. Shit roads, infrastructure, lower than average investment by both parliaments... We pulled Thatcher out of the shite, paid for the upgrading of Glasgow and the decade of investment Dundee has had and in return we get a city deal 20 years too late and millions short of whats needed.The North Sea has been the bread basket of Scotland and Aberdeen has done better out of that than anywhere else. Hence my surprise at the moaning. Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 No one has ever explained to me adequately why revenue from the North Sea oil is Aberdeen's? Fair enough Aberdeen is close to it all but it's had the benefits from employment, why should it get an unequal share of any other revenue. No one can tell me Dundee is better invested in than Aberdeen(and nor should it be) Its not Aberdeen's but Aberdeen should've been given its fair share of it and Aberdeen should've had a lot more investment from it than it has had. Any other city around the world that has had the industry boom Aberdeen has is decades ahead of where Aberdeen is now. There's still parts of the city that doesnt have fibre for fuck sake. THat doesnt encourage small business nor further investment in the city. Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The North Sea has been the bread basket of Scotland and Aberdeen has done better out of that than anywhere else. Hence my surprise at the moaning. There's a massive difference between some people in Aberdeen doing well out of it and the city being invested in because of it. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Its not Aberdeen's but Aberdeen should've been given its fair share of it and Aberdeen should've had a lot more investment from it than it has had. Any other city around the world that has had the industry boom Aberdeen has is decades ahead of where Aberdeen is now. There's still parts of the city that doesnt have fibre for fuck sake. THat doesnt encourage small business nor further investment in the city.It's done very well out of it though. North Sea revenues have been horrifically mismanaged but to make out Aberdeen is hard done by considering the prosperity of the area is nonsense Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 It's done very well out of it though. North Sea revenues have been horrifically mismanaged but to make out Aberdeen is hard done by considering the prosperity of the area is nonsense Aberdeen as a city has had nothing out of it.Some people in Aberdeen have done well out of it.Most people in Aberdeen were paid more that others in Scotland but had a higher cost of living to go with it. Its taken 40 years for a bypass, 90 years for a 3rd river crossing and we're still waiting for other improvements to the infrastructure to start or be signed off. Improvements that would've encouraged further private investment 20 years ago but in 10 years time when things are finally done all it'll do is help a ghost town finally be fit for purpose, 30 years too late. You seem to be confusing what people earned out of the oil with how much or little the city was invested in when it was raking in the taxes for both Westminster and Holyrood. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Fuckin old middle englanders with their old prejudices will decide the outcome, again. Pensions is where the problem is, not jobless scrounges, old people fuck off and die. Legalise drugs and watch the cash roll in, it would help the cops to. Link to comment
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