starryfish Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 https://www.stadia-magazine.com/news/new-project/afl-architects-to-review-new-aberdeen-fc-stadium-design.html Link to comment
redstrummer Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 https://www.stadia-magazine.com/news/new-project/afl-architects-to-review-new-aberdeen-fc-stadium-design.html The Sacramento one in the related article would do nicely but at 300m USD , would need to have some compromises Link to comment
Dunty Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Aye it's not like they've already wasted millions on plans and feasibility studies for sites that were then binnedThey didn't bin them though because they changed their minds. Were it not for the boy Young we'd currently be residing at Loirston. Link to comment
RUL Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 They didn't bin them though because they changed their minds. Were it not for the boy Young we'd currently be residing at Loirston. Think the one which might have happened was Kingswells when Scotland thought they were going to get the Euros. Would have saved us a lot of cash. Link to comment
Kiriakov33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 You bringing this up reminded me what I heard months ago that they just might reconsider.South Stand and KS End Converted over 2 seasons.But If I recall rightly I believe they can't make KS end any higher,when they originally thought of the idea.Have heard very similar in the past few weeks about them reconsidering redeveloping Pittodrie. I was told that they are seriously looking into it and preliminary survey work has been carried out. May well be a load of crap but time will tell. Link to comment
shut up meg Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 You like quoting totally unsubstantiated rumours, eh? Like Jess's nose being out of joint? Link to comment
Ernie McCracken Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Have heard very similar in the past few weeks about them reconsidering redeveloping Pittodrie. I was told that they are seriously looking into it and preliminary survey work has been carried out. May well be a load of crap but time will tell.Hope not. Pittodrie is shit. Wed end up spending a heap of cash on something that can't come anywhere close to giving us what Kingsford can. 1 1 Link to comment
shut up meg Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I told you, I'm not going over old ground Its boring Unsubstantiated rumours, a bit like your insistence that FnD was posting under a different account.I can't believe you folded, you must be raging inside that you were too weak and he got the better of you! 1 Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Sheesh To think keech like this used to reel me in Cringe A savoury dish consisting of pastry crust filled with eggs, milk or cream, and cheese, meat, seafood or vegetables, it can be served hot or cold. It is part of French cuisine but is also popular in other countries, particularly as party food? Link to comment
shut up meg Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Sheesh To think keech like this used to reel me inCringe:-) Link to comment
Dunty Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Have heard very similar in the past few weeks about them reconsidering redeveloping Pittodrie. I was told that they are seriously looking into it and preliminary survey work has been carried out. May well be a load of crap but time will tell.No, you made it all up. Or whoever told you made it up knowing you're gullible enough to fall for it. Milne is delaying the stadium until the housing market recovers so he can sell Pittodrie. He's not secretly thinking about embarking on a more expensive project. 1 1 Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 No, you made it all up. Or whoever told you made it up knowing you're gullible enough to fall for it. Milne is delaying the stadium until the housing market recovers so he can sell Pittodrie. He's not secretly thinking about embarking on a more expensive project.Lol. Come on min. Link to comment
Kiriakov33 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 No, you made it all up. Or whoever told you made it up knowing you're gullible enough to fall for it. Milne is delaying the stadium until the housing market recovers so he can sell Pittodrie. He's not secretly thinking about embarking on a more expensive project.[/quot Like I said, it could well be a load of pish but I can assure you I haven’t made it up. It does appear though to be an unsubstantiated rumour as it looks like we have appointed stadium “advisors”. That being said I have absolutely no idea what pittodrie is worth as land value but it will never reach what is was worth a few years ago. When the new stadium was first mooted they were probably hoping that the sale of pittodrie would pay for 30-40% of it. That figure is likely to be 15-20% now. They might wait until the value of pittodrie has gone up again but I have my doubts it ever will. As the years go by costs increase. A 50million stadium in 3 years could be 60-70. This is just my opinion but I certainly wouldn’t be surprised if they had a contingency plan to redevelop Pittodrie as in the long term it may be the cheaper ( and popular ) option. Link to comment
NEM Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Hope not. Pittodrie is shit. Wed end up spending a heap of cash on something that can't come anywhere close to giving us what Kingsford can. 2 hours on a shuttle bus every second week? 2 2 Link to comment
NEM Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 No, you made it all up. Or whoever told you made it up knowing you're gullible enough to fall for it. Milne is delaying the stadium until the housing market recovers so he can sell Pittodrie. He's not secretly thinking about embarking on a more expensive project. You actually believe that eh? LOL Link to comment
Guest the shepherd Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 No, you made it all up. Or whoever told you made it up knowing you're gullible enough to fall for it. Milne is delaying the stadium until the housing market recovers so he can sell Pittodrie. He's not secretly thinking about embarking on a more expensive project.Sorry min but disagree with you. The transfer of ownership and/or sale of Pittodrie Stadium is secondary in terms of finally securing planning rights to proceed to build a new ground at Kingsford. Whilst Stewart Milne will be investing heavily in the new ground project, naturally he will not be the only investor. The club would not have proceeded so tenaciously with these plans if it was not affordable, sustainable and achievable. So what was Stewart Milne's modus operandi in terms of trying to gain planning rights for the club to build a new stadium at Bellfield in 2003 and Loirston in 2012 if applying your form of rationalism? We, supporters, are all resigned to the future sale of Pittodrie by Stewart Milne if going by the tiresome anecdote of "he's only bought Pittodrie to build flats on it". Fuck me he acquired the stadium nearly 26 years ago so that logic is feeble. I'm sure if that was the case Pittodrie would have been rubble long before now. Link to comment
slippers Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 No, you made it all up. Or whoever told you made it up knowing you're gullible enough to fall for it. Milne is delaying the stadium until the housing market recovers so he can sell Pittodrie. He's not secretly thinking about embarking on a more expensive project.[/quot Like I said, it could well be a load of pish but I can assure you I haven’t made it up. It does appear though to be an unsubstantiated rumour as it looks like we have appointed stadium “advisors”. That being said I have absolutely no idea what pittodrie is worth as land value but it will never reach what is was worth a few years ago. When the new stadium was first mooted they were probably hoping that the sale of pittodrie would pay for 30-40% of it. That figure is likely to be 15-20% now. They might wait until the value of pittodrie has gone up again but I have my doubts it ever will. As the years go by costs increase. A 50million stadium in 3 years could be 60-70. This is just my opinion but I certainly wouldn’t be surprised if they had a contingency plan to redevelop Pittodrie as in the long term it may be the cheaper ( and popular ) option.I agree with that! Value of Pittodrie may never go up much but costs of new stadium will almost certainly increase the longer they leave it. Pretty sure they said that a lot of the ground works for the stadium was done along with the training complex and one of the reasons it went over budget along with the better pitch! Link to comment
NEM Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Sorry min but disagree with you. The transfer of ownership and/or sale of Pittodrie Stadium is secondary in terms of finally securing planning rights to proceed to build a new ground at Kingsford. Whilst Stewart Milne will be investing heavily in the new ground project, naturally he will not be the only investor. The club would not have proceeded so tenaciously with these plans if it was not affordable, sustainable and achievable. So what was Stewart Milne's modus operandi in terms of trying to gain planning rights for the club to build a new stadium at Bellfield in 2003 and Loirston in 2012 if applying your form of rationalism? We, supporters, are all resigned to the future sale of Pittodrie by Stewart Milne if going by the tiresome anecdote of "he's only bought Pittodrie to build flats on it". Fuck me he acquired the stadium nearly 26 years ago so that logic is feeble. I'm sure if that was the case Pittodrie would have been rubble long before now. Will he? He never contributed a bean towards the training ground. Previous greenbelt land now has hunners of hooses on it, including his 1 Link to comment
Guest the shepherd Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Will he? He never contributed a bean towards the training ground. Previous greenbelt land now has hunners of hooses on it, including hisI would be very surprised if he was not a major financial backer of the new ground project. To fund such a large project, or any project for that matter, shareholders, stakeholders and outside investors collectively have to put forward feasible plans in order for the initial capital to be released and used to meet the first stages of a project. The only way this project would get off the ground would be with his investment or at the very least he would act as a guarantor if there was an unforeseen cashflow problem after the construction of the new ground had commenced. Always though he stayed in Bieldside min. Link to comment
RUL Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I would be very surprised if he was not a major financial backer of the new ground project. To fund such a large project, or any project for that matter, shareholders, stakeholders and outside investors collectively have to put forward feasible plans in order for the initial capital to be released and used to meet the first stages of a project. The only way this project would get off the ground would be with his investment or at the very least he would act as a guarantor if there was an unforeseen cashflow problem after the construction of the new ground had commenced. Always though he stayed in Bieldside min. I would have thought the name of the place would be a give away about who funded it? Link to comment
RUL Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Carrons must be amazing as The Bay in Stonehaven is great I think. Link to comment
NEM Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Always though he stayed in Bieldside min. Sorry I meant the shoeboxes his company builds nae his ain hoose Link to comment
The Boofon Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Carrons must be amazing as The Bay in Stonehaven is great I think. Carrons is better. The Bay is good but it's a bit of a shoe pony IMO. Carrons is good old school chippy. Link to comment
Dunty Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 No, you made it all up. Or whoever told you made it up knowing you're gullible enough to fall for it. Milne is delaying the stadium until the housing market recovers so he can sell Pittodrie. He's not secretly thinking about embarking on a more expensive project. Like I said, it could well be a load of pish but I can assure you I haven’t made it up. It does appear though to be an unsubstantiated rumour as it looks like we have appointed stadium “advisors”. That being said I have absolutely no idea what pittodrie is worth as land value but it will never reach what is was worth a few years ago. When the new stadium was first mooted they were probably hoping that the sale of pittodrie would pay for 30-40% of it. That figure is likely to be 15-20% now. They might wait until the value of pittodrie has gone up again but I have my doubts it ever will. As the years go by costs increase. A 50million stadium in 3 years could be 60-70. This is just my opinion but I certainly wouldn’t be surprised if they had a contingency plan to redevelop Pittodrie as in the long term it may be the cheaper ( and popular ) option.Redeveloping Pittodrie wouldn't be the cheaper option. It'd be the opposite. I'm not even particularly that much in favour of Kingsford, but people hoping they will one day change their minds and redevelop Pittodrie probably believe in Santa too. 2 2 Link to comment
Dunty Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 You actually believe that eh? LOLYes, I believe the reason the stadium has been delayed is because Aberdeen are struggling to raise the funding, not because they secretly are making plans to rebuild Pittodrie. Use your head min. Link to comment
Guest the shepherd Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I would have thought the name of the place would be a give away about who funded it?Possibly but would have thought Messrs. Milne, Jack, Crotty and Wicks's cash as well as monies gained through initiatives such as AberDNA would form the basis of the funding of the stadium. Link to comment
super_al Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 We go through all the legal hassle of kingsford and argue that one of the main benefits of the land is to have both the stadium and training facilities next to each other, only to go and look at redeveloping Pittodire. No chance. 4 1 Link to comment
NEM Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Yes, I believe the reason the stadium has been delayed is because Aberdeen are struggling to raise the funding, not because they secretly are making plans to rebuild Pittodrie. Use your head min. Fuck all to do with the current housing market though Link to comment
Dunty Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Fuck all to do with the current housing market thoughMaybe, maybe not. But the delay is Milne struggling to sell Pittodrie and the club struggling to raise £50m, not because they're secretly planning to go against everything they've argued against in the past few years and redevelop Pittodrie. Link to comment
reekie_dock Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Carrons is better. The Bay is good but it's a bit of a shoe pony IMO. Carrons is good old school chippy. What constitutes as a good old school chippy ? 5p Bandit, deep fried mars bars, ugly birds we massive cans ? Link to comment
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