Ernie McCracken Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, NEM said: Ebbe was successful in a previous role though Exactly and let's not forget what position Ebbe finished in the league that first season Link to comment
Ernie McCracken Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 21 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: Apart from the 4 who didn't manage to beat us i presume? Erm no. Mckay, Courts, Neilson and Martindale would all do a better job. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Ernie McCracken said: Erm no. Mckay, Courts, Nelson and Martindale would all do a better job. Deary me, really???????? P.S., who's the third one? Mandela? Admiral? Link to comment
Ernie McCracken Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: Deary me, really???????? P.S., who's the third one? Mandela? Admiral? Dammit you got there before I had a chance to edit. To be clear I wouldn't necessarily want any of them as Dons manager, but in terms of the specific question of doing a better job than Glass, yup any one of them. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 47 minutes ago, Ernie McCracken said: Erm no. Mckay, Courts, Neilson and Martindale would all do a better job. I'll give you Neilson but there is absolutely no evidence that the other 3 would. Link to comment
Ernie McCracken Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: I'll give you Neilson but there is absolutely no evidence that the other 3 would. Tam Courts has a win ratio of 67% and 54% for both the clubs he has managed. Incidentally the 54% is relation to united a club with a smaller budget than Glass. Likewise Martindale is 38% with Livingston! Glass gets a nosebleed at 30%. Mackay did pretty shit at wigan and struggling a wee bit at County (but incidentally not against Stephen Glass's Aberdeen), I'll grant you. It's not that these guys are anything special, I just think people aren't grasping (or don't want to admit) how poor Glass is. Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, NEM said: Ebbe was successful in a previous role though Very true at Benfica and Brondby, shame it wasn't our club though. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: I'll give you Neilson but there is absolutely no evidence that the other 3 would. Nielsen shat it at home against us / Glass. Went 1-0 from a pen and then went defensive to try and hold on. He has one game plan, go out all guns blazing and try and get ahead before they knacker themselves. Go behind and their generally fcuked Link to comment
Ernie McCracken Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: Nielsen shat it at home against us / Glass. Went 1-0 from a pen and then went defensive to try and hold on. He has one game plan, go out all guns blazing and try and get ahead before they knacker themselves. Go behind and their generally fcuked Remember the point was not that Neilson was a good manager. It was simply that he was better than Glass. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 54 minutes ago, Ernie McCracken said: Tam Courts has a win ratio of 67% and 54% for both the clubs he has managed. Incidentally the 54% is relation to united a club with a smaller budget than Glass. Likewise Martindale is 38% with Livingston! Glass gets a nosebleed at 30%. Mackay did pretty shit at wigan and struggling a wee bit at County (but incidentally not against Stephen Glass's Aberdeen), I'll grant you. It's not that these guys are anything special, I just think people aren't grasping (or don't want to admit) how poor Glass is. How can you possibly know that after a few games. You're massively jumping the gun. We'll come good. Link to comment
RUL Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Ernie McCracken said: Exactly and let's not forget what position Ebbe finished in the league that first season Indeed. Seems bizarre to use Ebbe as an example of what experience gets you when he was absolutely fucking useless. As was Alex Miller before him. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 None of those 4 managers are great. Neilson the best of the bunch by some distance though. But what makes folk convinced at this stage that Glass is better than them? Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: None of those 4 managers are great. Neilson the best of the bunch by some distance though. But what makes folk convinced at this stage that Glass is better than them? Nothing other than blind faith. There is NOTHING he can show from his coaching track record to back that up. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 28 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: None of those 4 managers are great. Neilson the best of the bunch by some distance though. But what makes folk convinced at this stage that Glass is better than them? It’s still too early to judge Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: It’s still too early to judge Glass has been our manager for 6 months. By that time Martindale had managed a 12 match unbeaten run or thereabouts Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Glass has been our manager for 6 months. By that time Martindale had managed a 12 match unbeaten run or thereabouts And after that? looks like he’s won 1 of his last 13 league games, 2 in the last 18 or 19 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 minute ago, afc1903mad said: And after that? That's not the point. You're assuming Glass is going to turn it around and be a success but the future is unwritten. However He managed to beat St Mirren to get further in the league cup than we did. And managed a win against Celtic the other week. Let's see if we can match that this weekend. And his wage bill is a fraction of ours. Link to comment
DelMonte Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 I’ve been pretty impressed with Tam Courts. Some difference in them since they played us. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Just now, DelMonte said: I’ve been pretty impressed with Tam Courts. Some difference in them since they played us. His team looks better balanced than ours at the moment Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 minute ago, aberdeen1970 said: That's not the point. You're assuming Glass is going to turn it around and be a success but the future is unwritten. No, I’m not. I’m not assuming anything, I’m saying it’s too early to judge. Any manager coming in deserved to be given time to improve us. Your assumption appears to be that he can’t 3 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: He managed to beat St Mirren to get further in the league cup than we did. And managed a win against Celtic the other week. Let's see if we can match that this weekend. Yet he couldn’t beat us, as poor as we’ve been. These are ludicrous arguments. The man needs more time to determine if he can improve us or not Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: No, I’m not. I’m not assuming anything, I’m saying it’s too early to judge. Any manager coming in deserved to be given time to improve us. Your assumption appears to be that he can’t Yet he couldn’t beat us, as poor as we’ve been. These are ludicrous arguments. The man needs more time to determine if he can improve us or not I'd love to be able to say that we're brilliant and Glass is doing a great job. But we're not and he's not. He's lost 50% of his games in charge. We're shit at the back, clueless in midfield and crap up front. And the goalie's arse has gone. Possession is great but it wins you fuck all if you don't do anything constructive with it. How many of his 11 signings are going to turn it around for him? Ps I noticed you chopped off the bit where I said Martindale has a budget a fraction of ours. Link to comment
Tommy Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 When everything clicks into place we’ll all be happier. 1 Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Tommy said: When everything clicks into place we’ll all be happier. Let’s hope so, so people can get some dry pants Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: .Ps I noticed you chopped off the bit where I said Martindale has a budget a fraction of ours. Did it have any relevance given he beat Celtic last week with a better budget than ours? You’d prefer Martindale. I say no thanks Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Just now, afc1903mad said: Did it have any merit given he beat Celtic last week with a better budget than ours? You’d prefer Martindale. I say no thanks Martindale has a better budget than us? News to me. Of course I wouldn't want Martindale. I'm saying it's a bit presumptious to say that Glass is a better manager. And a bit daft to compare things Martindale actually achieved as being inferior to things Glass hasn't yet achieved. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: Let’s hope so, so people can get some dry pants I think we're the only club who have fans who answer criticisms of the team with this pant pishing stuff. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Martindale has a better budget than us? News to me. Of course I wouldn't want Martindale. I'm saying it's a bit presumptious to say that Glass is a better manager. And a bit daft to compare things Martindale actually achieved as being inferior to things Glass hasn't yet achieved. Oh FFS, I’ve had enough of your nit picking. The budget point you were making was irrelevant because he beat Celtic the other week who have a much bigger budget than ours Jeezo, how much have you had to drink tonight. Good night min Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: Oh FFS, I’ve had enough of your nit picking. The budget point you were making was irrelevant because he beat Celtic the other week who have a much bigger budget than ours Jeezo, how much have you had to drink tonight. Good night min I don't drink. That's probably why I'm so fucking miserable! Nae sure where you're going with the budget thing. You think it's an irrelevant achievement that he beat Celtic because Celtic have a bigger budget than ours? You've lost me there. Link to comment
cruickc2 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 53 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: I'd love to be able to say that we're brilliant and Glass is doing a great job. But we're not and he's not. He's lost 50% of his games in charge. We're shit at the back, clueless in midfield and crap up front. And the goalie's arse has gone. Possession is great but it wins you fuck all if you don't do anything constructive with it. How many of his 11 signings are going to turn it around for him? Ps I noticed you chopped off the bit where I said Martindale has a budget a fraction of ours. 1 1 Link to comment
cruickc2 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Nothing other than blind faith. There is NOTHING he can show from his coaching track record to back that up. 1 Link to comment
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