Ukraine

[Ke1t]

12 hours ago, Poodler said:

Haha bizarre thing to put in a press release if they’re a serious company 

EATR robots were designed to use 'biomass' to keep themselves fueled as they tear up the battlefield, killing everything that lives. 

Ostensibly they'd be using vegetation for their fuel, but battlefields tend to be full of corpses, and meat offers more energy than plants, so there's no way the military is going to be telling their killer robots to go find carrots when there's shit-tons of delicious meat all around. 

Also, it carries a chainsaw around with it. 

For chopping vegetables, you understand. 

[Millertime]

On 3/10/2022 at 5:56 AM, Fridge said:

Blowing up kids hospitals is absolutely abhorrent, I’d nuke the fuckers for that.

Thing is

Ukraine said they did

Russia said it was disused and a base for ukranian soldiers

How do you tell what's true?

[shut up meg]

20 hours ago, Sooper-hanz said:

I may have mentioned this before but my gran despised the Japs with a real venom. She almost made her peace with the jerrys but yer Jap? No way . Said they were ‘sadistic bastards’and that was the only time I heard her swear. 

Aye, my old man had a rust bucket Datsun as well.

[Jigsaw666]

Europe vowing to wean themselves off Russian oil and gas by 2027.?

In other words, we're going to continue to use it and hopefully in a year or three Putin will be replaced and we can forget we ever said anything in the first place. We all want Putin stopped, well depending on how much it costs.

[RedArmyFakshun]

10 hours ago, Ten Caat said:

But we wouldn't have to beat the retreat as we wouldn't be fighting on a second front in France/Belgium. So get those troops into Moscow and plan for a further march on to Siberia,. 

I think Ramadu is referencing Napoleon's invasion of 1812 rather than Barbarossa in 1941

[RedArmyFakshun]

Today's UN Security Council meeting: Threats to international peace and security.

Russia puts forward its case that the US has been funding/conducting dangerous pathogen research in Ukraine.

https://media.un.org/en/asset/k16/k16nsx50dm

[Ke1t]

1 hour ago, RedArmyFakshun said:

Today's UN Security Council meeting: Threats to international peace and security.

Russia puts forward its case that the US has been funding/conducting dangerous pathogen research in Ukraine.

https://media.un.org/en/asset/k16/k16nsx50dm

UN rejects baseless Russian claim that Ukraine has a bioweapons programme. 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/11/un-says-not-aware-of-biological-weapons-programme-in-ukraine

[RedArmyFakshun]

4 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

UN rejects baseless Russian claim that Ukraine has a bioweapons programme. 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/11/un-says-not-aware-of-biological-weapons-programme-in-ukraine

US envoy to UN rejects Moscow’s unproven claims that Ukraine is operating biological weapons labs with US support

well fancy that

[Ke1t]

1 hour ago, RedArmyFakshun said:

US envoy to UN rejects Moscow’s unproven claims that Ukraine is operating biological weapons labs with US support

well fancy that

Like the great Christopher Hitchens once said, that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

 

[Millertime]

9 hours ago, NEM said:

Neither do Nato - they've been breaking agreements since the fall of the Berlin wall

Putin is responding here, not instigating 

[RedArmyFakshun]

1 hour ago, Ke1t said:

the great Christopher Hitchens

ah yes..  the world famous drink-sodden ex-Trotskyist popinjay

[Ke1t]

22 minutes ago, RedArmyFakshun said:

ah yes..  the world famous drink-sodden ex-Trotskyist popinjay

Even drink-sodden his mind was sharper than every last one of his opponents. 

You know, it's telling that one would attack his vices rather than his arguments, though. 

[Ke1t]

3 minutes ago, Bad_Mobby said:

Aye, fine bloke

his breether nae a bit of a tosser?

His brother, Peter, is a massive tosser.

[Ke1t]

19 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

tend to agree with that. his latest 'piece' hardly dispels the rumours .

His latest piece?

I'm certainly quite intrigued to read THAT.

[Ohjimmyjimmy]

8 hours ago, Millertime said:

Putin is responding here, not instigating 

Pathetic. 

[Millertime]

1 hour ago, Ohjimmyjimmy said:

Pathetic. 

Watch Russell brand

[Ohjimmyjimmy]

If Russell Brand is your source of truth then there’s no helping you.

 

Good day.

[NEM]

8 minutes ago, Ohjimmyjimmy said:

If Russell Brand is your source of truth then there’s no helping you.

 

Good day.

No far better with the BBC ?

[Ohjimmyjimmy]

Paranoid. Not everyone is out to get you lads.

[NEM]

12 minutes ago, Ohjimmyjimmy said:

Paranoid. Not everyone is out to get you lads.

Nah but Putin is,  because the BBC told you of course. 

[Ohjimmyjimmy]

I understand.

Conspiracy theories don’t require any critical thinking skills. Once debunked, the conspiracy theorist can either become more entrenched or move on to the next conspiracy.

The media is a good bogeyman for conspiracy theories though. There is no shortage of news and media out there, some reliable much more less so for the conspiracy theorist to latch onto and feed their latest conspiracy. Confirmation bias leads the conspiracy theorist to find one story or article that supports their position,  dismissing all others. But once debunked and confronted with multiple data points that conflict their pre-existing beliefs- it’s easy to move onto the next conspiracy, because, you know “it’s the media”. We’re seeing this now, with people giving up their “qualifications” in Epidemiology and taking up internet diplomas in International Relations and Geopolitics.

But, what would I know - I just read the BBC as my overlords want me to…

 

 

[The Boofon]

9 minutes ago, Ohjimmyjimmy said:

I understand.

Conspiracy theories don’t require any critical thinking skills. Once debunked, the conspiracy theorist can either become more entrenched or move on to the next conspiracy.

The media is a good bogeyman for conspiracy theories though. There is no shortage of news and media out there, some reliable much more less so for the conspiracy theorist to latch onto and feed their latest conspiracy. Confirmation bias leads the conspiracy theorist to find one story or article that supports their position,  dismissing all others. But once debunked and confronted with multiple data points that conflict their pre-existing beliefs- it’s easy to move onto the next conspiracy, because, you know “it’s the media”. We’re seeing this now, with people giving up their “qualifications” in Epidemiology and taking up internet diplomas in International Relations and Geopolitics.

But, what would I know - I just read the BBC as my overlords want me to…

 

 

Correct. 
 

Same deal with when you buy a new car. 
 

Hardly ever saw a Maserati until I bought one. See them all the time now. They’ve always been there. Just never noticed until I bought one. 

[RedArmyFakshun]

10 minutes ago, Ohjimmyjimmy said:

The media is a good bogeyman for conspiracy theories though. There is no shortage of news and media out there, some reliable much more less so for the conspiracy theorist to latch onto and feed their latest conspiracy. Confirmation bias leads the conspiracy theorist to find one story or article that supports their position,  dismissing all others.

The same could be said for the complicity theorist that gets behind the sanctioned narrative as common sense, dismissing all other viewpoints as conspiracy.

For example there are multiple data points showing that 'the vaccine' to be less than trustworthy.   I don't see many complicity theorists taking a fresh view on their entrenched positions.

[RedArmyFakshun]

Its important to be able to think the unthinkable without troubling yourself over the fear of ridicule

quite possibly the situation in Ukraine has been encouraged to spiral this way and that partly in order to provide long term cover for western hyperinflation and reduction of living standards due to vast over-printing of cash for a number of years now

is that true?  doesn't matter.  things are happening. we can't say for certain that it isn't

its not that one thing is true and another isn't.  there is a lot of convergent opportunism going on

[Guest milne_afc]

Let’s get one thing straight. Russia are the baddies. 

[Ramandu]

14 hours ago, RedArmyFakshun said:

I think Ramadu is referencing Napoleon's invasion of 1812 rather than Barbarossa in 1941

That's the one - originals are better than than sequels. The Russian tactic was to dance their army around avoiding battles, even to the point of giving up Moscow uncontested. Napoleon sat there confused for a few weeks, before realising he couldn't hold it, and slid off home. Smart Ruskies.

7 minutes ago, RedArmyFakshun said:

Its important to be able to think the unthinkable without troubling yourself over the fear of ridicule

quite possibly the situation in Ukraine has been encouraged to spiral this way and that partly in order to provide long term cover for western hyperinflation and reduction of living standards due to vast over-printing of cash for a number of years now

is that true?  doesn't matter.  things are happening. we can't say for certain that it isn't

its not that one thing is true and another isn't.  there is a lot of convergent opportunism going on

Thinking unfashionable thoughts on the face of ridicule: very important.

Convergent opportunism: yes, it happens.

Does it matter if things are true: yes it does. Testable predictions are the way forward, and unfortunately the 'vaccine is a scam' mob have been really poor with the predictions they made. They aren't a good source of truth.

The 'those in power are manufacturing situation X for reason Y' mob have always been around, and are similarly poor with their predictions.

[RedArmyFakshun]

8 minutes ago, Ramandu said:

Does it matter if things are true: yes it does.

and yet, outwith the ongoing process of the scientific method

all that seems to matter is who has the power to define

in the words of the late great Hassan-i-Sabbah -

nothing is true;  everything is permitted

[NEM]

1 hour ago, Ohjimmyjimmy said:

I understand.

Conspiracy theories don’t require any critical thinking skills. Once debunked, the conspiracy theorist can either become more entrenched or move on to the next conspiracy.

The media is a good bogeyman for conspiracy theories though. There is no shortage of news and media out there, some reliable much more less so for the conspiracy theorist to latch onto and feed their latest conspiracy. Confirmation bias leads the conspiracy theorist to find one story or article that supports their position,  dismissing all others. But once debunked and confronted with multiple data points that conflict their pre-existing beliefs- it’s easy to move onto the next conspiracy, because, you know “it’s the media”. We’re seeing this now, with people giving up their “qualifications” in Epidemiology and taking up internet diplomas in International Relations and Geopolitics.

But, what would I know - I just read the BBC as my overlords want me to…

 

 

Aye that’s one side of the coin. The other extreme is swallowing any old bullshit the proven liars in government and media feed you 

(and don’t forget to virtue signal online while doing so)

[Tommy]

23 minutes ago, Grays Babylon 1875 said:

Don't forget the Welsh. 

I thank you. 

 

1 hour ago, Bad_Mobby said:

And Israel, Yanks, Guffs, Saudis, UAE and Chinkies (and more)

Weegies too.

[Ohjimmyjimmy]

6 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

You're the sort of thick cunt who thinks everything the beeb and sky tell you is the truth

Cool, if that makes you feel better about yourself Cavey you utter dunce.