manboobs109 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, Ramandu said: It's absolutely not. Far far less harmful, though more addictive (and still a bit harmful). No such thing as "addiction" but I get your drift. Why are people spending money to inhale flavoured steam that you don't get a buzz out of though? Madness. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, Ramandu said: It's absolutely not. Far far less harmful, though more addictive (and still a bit harmful). We don't know this for certain. Not been around long enough to see long term impact. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: No such thing as "addiction" but I get your drift. Why are people spending money to inhale flavoured steam that you don't get a buzz out of though? Madness. They do get a buzz...rammed with nicotine Link to comment
BrianFaePerth Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Most of them feed their addiction by not buying socks. Link to comment
Ramandu Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, DD1903 said: We don't know this for certain. Not been around long enough to see long term impact. It's the most effective method of getting folk to stop smoking, so any effect has to be judged against the risks of smoking cigarettes. There's enough evidence that vaping is way safer, from long enough (stuff similar to vaping has been about for decades). Not that it's important, but I've never smoked or vaped, and I think that people vaping look ridiculous. But it's been a fantastic way to get folk off cigarettes, and saved loads of lives. We should celebrate it. Link to comment
KenDodd'sDad Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Fed up of the hand wringing in the media about kids vaping. Now, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be thrilled if my kids were doing it, and I'm sure it's not harmless, but when I was a kid it seemed like everyone smoked fags and I can't believe that vaping is worse than that. Link to comment
sigh Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, Ramandu said: It's the most effective method of getting folk to stop smoking, so any effect has to be judged against the risks of smoking cigarettes. There's enough evidence that vaping is way safer, from long enough (stuff similar to vaping has been about for decades). Not that it's important, but I've never smoked or vaped, and I think that people vaping look ridiculous. But it's been a fantastic way to get folk off cigarettes, and saved loads of lives. We should celebrate it. Why - its just leading to folk living longer, ageing population, taking more pension plus costing us more to look after them - let the folk that dont look after themselves die off due to natural selection/darwanism - leave more of the Earth to those that can look after themselves. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, DD1903 said: They do get a buzz...rammed with nicotine You'd have to be a real lightweight to get a buzz off nicotine surely? Like caffeine. Link to comment
Don Fonte Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: You'd have to be a real lightweight to get a buzz off nicotine surely? Like caffeine. It is only poofters and women who vape surely so maybe they do. Link to comment
BrianFaePerth Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Don Fonte said: It is only poofters and women who vape surely so maybe they do. ^prefers sucking on a pink cigarette Link to comment
The Cockney Don Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said: It’s a minging habit.Second only to weed smokers in public . and the gobbing on the pavement. Link to comment
daytripping Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Don Fonte said: It is only poofters and women who vape surely so maybe they do. Hands up to being a vaper. Smoked since I was 14, could never have kicked them without the vape. Can see the government going after it soon in the name of health but even the NHS endorse vaping as a means to kick the smokes. The disposable things should be made harder to buy, every ethnic shop is rammed with them and easily bought by kids. I like the New Zealand plan for smoking, raise the legal buying age by 1 every year. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Ramandu said: It's the most effective method of getting folk to stop smoking, so any effect has to be judged against the risks of smoking cigarettes. There's enough evidence that vaping is way safer, from long enough (stuff similar to vaping has been about for decades). Not that it's important, but I've never smoked or vaped, and I think that people vaping look ridiculous. But it's been a fantastic way to get folk off cigarettes, and saved loads of lives. We should celebrate it. If it's purely getting folk of cigs and then nicotine entirely, then smashing. However, it isn't. Like I said, guys at work vape now after having never smoked previously. they do look ridiculous though Link to comment
DD1903 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 2 hours ago, manboobs109 said: You'd have to be a real lightweight to get a buzz off nicotine surely? Like caffeine. Valid. Don't smoke, so not sure. But, a coffee doesn't do anything for me in terms of 'buzz'. Link to comment
daytripping Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Vape feeds the nicotine addiction, that's about it. It's not a buzz. Not really enjoyable either but good excuse for getting away from the desk at work. I must do much less hours work than the non smokers. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, daytripping said: Vape feeds the nicotine addiction, that's about it. It's not a buzz. Not really enjoyable either but good excuse for getting away from the desk at work. I must do much less hours work than the non smokers. What's the point then? Link to comment
daytripping Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Just now, manboobs109 said: What's the point then? It's an addiction, if it was easy to get off nicotine no one would smoke. Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 On 6/6/2023 at 8:05 PM, Ke1t said: @tutankamun should have a fair bit of input into this particular Thread O, I would hope. David Grusch... whistleblower or bullshitter? I believe he believes everything he's saying. Whether or not its true is an entirely different question. Being an avid follower and listener to all things UFO/UAP I've been following this story with a lot of interest. There's quite a few "mainstream" jounros in the US now pushing this forward so I'm expecting a lot more to come out. My money is on CIA psyop but it only takes 1 of the hundreds of stories to be true to change everything. Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 hours ago, daytripping said: Hands up to being a vaper. Smoked since I was 14, could never have kicked them without the vape. Can see the government going after it soon in the name of health but even the NHS endorse vaping as a means to kick the smokes. The disposable things should be made harder to buy, every ethnic shop is rammed with them and easily bought by kids. I like the New Zealand plan for smoking, raise the legal buying age by 1 every year. I joined the vaping club last month. Still having the occasional cig but I've gone from 15-20g of tobacco a day to 50g a month. Its hard utilising the cannabis prescription I got myself last month without the tobacco. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, daytripping said: It's an addiction, if it was easy to get off nicotine no one would smoke. No such thing as addiction, complete myth. How can people stop smoking if they are "addicted" and have no control over it? 1 Link to comment
Ramandu Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 25 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: No such thing as addiction, complete myth. How can people stop smoking if they are "addicted" and have no control over it? 😆 It's not quite "glasses are cheating at darts", but it's a decent effort. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Ramandu said: 😆 It's not quite "glasses are cheating at darts", but it's a decent effort. I'm being serious. Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Ramandu said: 😆 It's not quite "glasses are cheating at darts", but it's a decent effort. nowt will ever beat his people should just stay opinion. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, Bluto10 said: nowt will ever beat his people should just stay opinion. It's not an opinion it's a fact. Link to comment
Dal Riata Don Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 hours ago, manboobs109 said: No such thing as addiction, complete myth. How can people stop smoking if they are "addicted" and have no control over it? It's like you have a spiritual side and a physical side to yourself. The spirit is weak for some time so you take on something like drink, or prescription meds then the physical side i.e. your body gets addicted to it. But if you're lucky your spiritual self starts to assert itself and overcomes your bodily cravings. It's like going on a type of diet but then staying on it. Best I can explain it. If you've never been addicted to something then well done. Link to comment
Don Fonte Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Just now, Dal Riata Don said: It's like you have a spiritual side and a physical side to yourself. The spirit is weak for some time so you take on something like drink, or prescription meds then the physical side i.e. your body gets addicted to it. But if you're lucky your spiritual self starts to assert itself and overcomes your bodily cravings. It's like going on a type of diet but then staying on it. Best I can explain it. If you've never been addicted to something the well done. Jesus fucking Christ. Link to comment
Don Fonte Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: It's not an opinion it's a fact. Shut up ye fat cunt. You holidayed in Benidorm recently. Link to comment
Dal Riata Don Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Don Fonte said: Jesus fucking Christ. Amen. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Don Fonte said: Shut up ye fat cunt. You holidayed in Benidorm recently. It was Majorca. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, Don Fonte said: Shut up ye fat cunt. You holidayed in Benidorm recently. Love the Big Chase at the end of every episode. Link to comment
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