ERNIE Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: V - Video A - Assisting R - Rangers Been there. Pull the plug. Yes and the crazy thing is afc etc are paying for it.... Link to comment
CCB III Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 hours ago, The Boofon said: Has the compliance officer offered Cantwell a 2 match ban yet? No, and he won't! Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, CCB III said: No, and he won't! He will take the knee and then kiss his arse. Link to comment
The Hulk Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 10:01 PM, thurso said: mini id say sevco probably played more percentage of long balls than us. I think it was when we played short passes giving the ball away that we generally gave the ball away in our half not long balls They played roughly the same number of long passes but as a percentage Rangers played over 600 or so passes in the game, with long ones being 12% (roughly 2 in 17), Aberdeen 260 or so passes with long ones accounting for 30% (almost 1 in 3). Aberdeen's pass completion was only 53%. An utterly appalling statistic in the modern game. That's 141 completed passes in the game. To put that into some kind of perspective, as a viewing punter we can expect to see Aberdeen player successfully find a team-mate three times every two minutes in the game. The target needs to be something like 80%. If you look through various leagues you will find that teams with a pass % lower than 70% are invariably near the bottom of their division. So no, not even close to the same percentage of long passes but it's not necessarily something an ordinary fan really takes note of. An analyst or someone educated in the game would notice. 2 Link to comment
thurso Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 24 minutes ago, The Hulk said: They played roughly the same number of long passes but as a percentage Rangers played over 600 or so passes in the game, with long ones being 12% (roughly 2 in 17), Aberdeen 260 or so passes with long ones accounting for 30% (almost 1 in 3). Aberdeen's pass completion was only 53%. An utterly appalling statistic in the modern game. That's 141 completed passes in the game. To put that into some kind of perspective, as a viewing punter we can expect to see Aberdeen player successfully find a team-mate three times every two minutes in the game. The target needs to be something like 80%. If you look through various leagues you will find that teams with a pass % lower than 70% are invariably near the bottom of their division. So no, not even close to the same percentage of long passes but it's not necessarily something an ordinary fan really takes note of. An analyst or someone educated in the game would notice. Well there you go that passing completion stat is far more damning than not getting any corners Link to comment
Millertime Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 7:20 AM, brunstanesheep said: What fucks me off about the huns amongst other things, is they find it totally inconceivable to admit they get soft penalties, and they will freeze frame some stupid fucking angle and argue like fuck until there veins are popping out there necks. Same as when they have had calls for penalties against, like goldsons attempt at being a goalie, they come away with some stupid fucking argument that its not a penalty and just cant possibly see how there own team can commit a foul in there own box. Then start throwing the bitter accusations and about like its some sort of insult. Bitter seems to be there favourite word. Dont they realise everyone laughs at them, little wonder everyone hates the hun cunts, an absolute stain on society. What, like the freeze frame that shows Gartenmann pulling Goldsons top you mean? 1 Link to comment
NorfolkDandy Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, Millertime said: What, like the freeze frame that shows Gartenmann pulling Goldsons top you mean? It's the deliberate / convenient lack of freeze frames they attract that's the issue for most folks Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I think he means the one deliberately cropped to the left so you're not looking at Lammer's blatant block. Cant be sure though. Link to comment
Donscanada Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 As mentioned with others var favours celtic and rangers as they dominate possession in the box.. so almost anything questionable will be reviewed. However the lack of penalities for rangers seems to statistically near impossible.. that seems highly suspect. It almost seems like refs do not want to impact the title race between the two glasgow clubs. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Donscanada said: As mentioned with others var favours celtic and rangers as they dominate possession in the box.. so almost anything questionable will be reviewed. However the lack of penalities for rangers seems to statistically near impossible.. that seems highly suspect. It almost seems like refs do not want to impact the title race between the two glasgow clubs. Yes, but it also appears that the "VAR team" most certainly do. Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 AFC met the referee association last week before the game and were told only shirt pulling that prevents clear goal scoring opportunities would be given... Link to comment
NorfolkDandy Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, muttonhumper said: AFC met the referee association last week before the game and were told only shirt pulling that prevents clear goal scoring opportunities would be given... Bizarre Pull a shirt outfield = Free kick Pull a shirt in the box = Pen, but then again not, if, in someone's opinion you're not getting to the ball They deliberately make it difficult in order to hide Link to comment
Rubinho Escocia Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Issues with rules being applied inconsistently will happen with or without VAR as the ref has to apply judgement. For the Rangers penalty you’ve seen them given, and you’ve seen them not given but it was silly to give the ref the chance. However, I’m dubious we’d get that decision at Ibrox (see Duk from last season etc) or one of our players would get away with striking a player off the ball as Goodson did with Polvara. At the moment with VAR it feels like if you want to find a reason to give a penalty you will be able to find one - I’ve not seen it yet but apparently Newcastle gave away a late penalty against PSG last night where this appeared to be the case, so it happens outside a Scotland too. In a weird way i think it’s good long term as highlights the issue and hope over time VAR will improve consistency-if it’s not done this in a few years I’d bin it, as there’d be no real benefit, just a time cost. Overall for me, I still though we didn’t play well enough in the second half and we need to focus on that for now as it’s more in our control. 1 Link to comment
brunstanesheep Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Millertime said: What, like the freeze frame that shows Gartenmann pulling Goldsons top you mean? Like every dubious penalty given I mean. Its funny how fans of every other club can hold their hands up and say aye we got away with that or oh we were lucky to get that it was soft as fuck. But every hun to a man finds it impossible to beleive their own team could commit a foul in there own box and every soft as fuck penalty is a stonewaller. All the while shouting “read the rules” when they cant even read. Link to comment
Millertime Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, brunstanesheep said: Like every dubious penalty given I mean. Its funny how fans of every other club can hold their hands up and say aye we got away with that or oh we were lucky to get that it was soft as fuck. But every hun to a man finds it impossible to beleive their own team could commit a foul in there own box and every soft as fuck penalty is a stonewaller. All the while shouting “read the rules” when they cant even read. I dont think that's very accurate 3 Link to comment
brunstanesheep Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, Millertime said: I dont think that's very accurate I think you are absolutly at it. And i believe that to be very accurate. 3 Link to comment
Millertime Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, brunstanesheep said: I think you are absolutly at it. And i believe that to be very accurate. This also; inaccurate Link to comment
DD1903 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 38 minutes ago, brunstanesheep said: I think you are absolutly at it. And i believe that to be very accurate. Quite a few sevconians I work with said it was soft… Link to comment
brunstanesheep Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, DD1903 said: Quite a few sevconians I work with said it was soft… fair play to them. unfortunatly im exposed to some of the most staunch of them and iv still to speak to one that doesnt think its a stonewaller Link to comment
Russell Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, DD1903 said: Quite a few sevconians I work with said it was soft… You a prison officer? 3 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Russell said: You a prison officer? Can only assume he works in for the broo, or a food bank or legal drug ‘safe house’ Maybe the STD/Gum clinic 🤔 Link to comment
alscotoz Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 14 hours ago, Rubinho Escocia said: Issues with rules being applied inconsistently will happen with or without VAR as the ref has to apply judgement. For the Rangers penalty you’ve seen them given, and you’ve seen them not given but it was silly to give the ref the chance. However, I’m dubious we’d get that decision at Ibrox (see Duk from last season etc) or one of our players would get away with striking a player off the ball as Goodson did with Polvara. At the moment with VAR it feels like if you want to find a reason to give a penalty you will be able to find one - I’ve not seen it yet but apparently Newcastle gave away a late penalty against PSG last night where this appeared to be the case, so it happens outside a Scotland too. In a weird way i think it’s good long term as highlights the issue and hope over time VAR will improve consistency-if it’s not done this in a few years I’d bin it, as there’d be no real benefit, just a time cost. Overall for me, I still though we didn’t play well enough in the second half and we need to focus on that for now as it’s more in our control. That's it. Fucking stupid. It was a penalty. Surely all players new to the club from outside Scotland should learn about how things work in the Scottish game. Delinquent not to. Link to comment
Macski Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 9:41 AM, Dynamo said: Has Goldson been cited yet? Is there even a compliance officer anymore? Pretty sure that they reckon it's unnecessary as VAR is meant to pick up on the previously unnoticed. Regardless though even before VAR, Goldson was booked so he wouldn't have been cited, as the ref noticed and acted. Shite, but those were the rules. Link to comment
thurso Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Macski said: Is there even a compliance officer anymore? Pretty sure that they reckon it's unnecessary as VAR is meant to pick up on the previously unnoticed. Regardless though even before VAR, Goldson was booked so he wouldn't have been cited, as the ref noticed and acted. Shite, but those were the rules. They must hot shot of the compliance officer because if they hadn’t there is no way Cantwell wouldn’t be cited with that outrageous dive and kick out at two of our players Link to comment
Roberto Posted November 30, 2023 Author Share Posted November 30, 2023 12 hours ago, Macski said: Is there even a compliance officer anymore? Pretty sure that they reckon it's unnecessary as VAR is meant to pick up on the previously unnoticed. Regardless though even before VAR, Goldson was booked so he wouldn't have been cited, as the ref noticed and acted. Shite, but those were the rules. So.... Shinnie last season.... Yeah that's what I thought. And what everyone says. I don't need to repeat it. Link to comment
Macski Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 18 hours ago, Roberto said: So.... Shinnie last season.... Yeah that's what I thought. And what everyone says. I don't need to repeat it. Shinnie's red last season was VAR bringing it to the refs attention. It was our appeal that meant a panel had to assess it. Nothing to do with compliance officers. The whole thing is shite though. This review caper they had last week when they admitted 3 errors with VAR. One of them was a sending off for a Dundee player that they've admitted shouldn't have happened. Dundee appealed and it was rejected! Unbelievable Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Paying money to appeal then getting an extra match for "wasting" the review panel's time is a fucking disgraceful way to run a football association. 3 Link to comment
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