Redeveloping Pittodrie - Options

[pocrawred]

3 minutes ago, Red Clive 1995 said:

I was more about the techt engineering space rather than the public purse chief!

Aye, some achievement like kain? 

[Schapenneuker]

3 minutes ago, Red Clive 1995 said:

I was more about the techt engineering space rather than the public purse chief!

Hearts managed to expand their main stand on pretty much exactly the same footprint. As did Hibs. 

If we wanted to do it, then engineering wise, there's nothing to stop us. Financially is different. 

Btw, I fucking hate the RDS. Iain Donald's folly, and anyone with any vision at that time should have been thinking about the ground as a whole, not just chucking tens of millions at one massive carbunkle.

 

[Red Clive 1995]

26 minutes ago, pocrawred said:

Aye, some achievement like kain? 

Was enjoying the show until I seen a weemin site manager, threw a can off the tv and switched on Clarksons ferm.

 

21 minutes ago, Schapenneuker said:

Hearts managed to expand their main stand on pretty much exactly the same footprint. As did Hibs. 

If we wanted to do it, then engineering wise, there's nothing to stop us. Financially is different. 

Btw, I fucking hate the RDS. Iain Donald's folly, and anyone with any vision at that time should have been thinking about the ground as a whole, not just chucking tens of millions at one massive carbunkle.

 

We should have been buying all the grun surrounding pittodrie instead of building the RDS.

[leftside]

20 minutes ago, Schapenneuker said:

Hearts managed to expand their main stand on pretty much exactly the same footprint. As did Hibs. 

If we wanted to do it, then engineering wise, there's nothing to stop us. Financially is different. 

Btw, I fucking hate the RDS. Iain Donald's folly, and anyone with any vision at that time should have been thinking about the ground as a whole, not just chucking tens of millions at one massive carbunkle.

 

correct, too close to the pitch and all that space at the back. Makes any future stadium modifications far more difficult and expensive. If some of that space at the rear was used then it would have created flexibility for south stand and main stand upgrades.

[ERNIE]

They must have been planning to rebuild the other stands one at a time after the RDS was built.Was there not something then about clearing the Smc debt by selling Pittodrie for flats?No doubt Stewart Milne or Ian Donald could give us the whole story. A 30 year saga anyway.Pretty poor when other smaller clubs have all managed either to rebuild or build new stadiums.

[dave_min]

38 minutes ago, Schapenneuker said:

Hearts managed to expand their main stand on pretty much exactly the same footprint. As did Hibs. 

If we wanted to do it, then engineering wise, there's nothing to stop us. Financially is different. 

Btw, I fucking hate the RDS. Iain Donald's folly, and anyone with any vision at that time should have been thinking about the ground as a whole, not just chucking tens of millions at one massive carbunkle.

 

Both redevelopments in Edinburgh are pish. We can do better

[leftside]

26 minutes ago, Schapenneuker said:

Hearts managed to expand their main stand on pretty much exactly the same footprint. As did Hibs. 

If we wanted to do it, then engineering wise, there's nothing to stop us. Financially is different. 

Btw, I fucking hate the RDS. Iain Donald's folly, and anyone with any vision at that time should have been thinking about the ground as a whole, not just chucking tens of millions at one massive carbunkle.

 

the other thing about the RDS is that Kilmarnock built 3 new stands and refurbished there main stand for the same cost. I understand the Fairhurst project management team had no one with any experience of football stadium projects, and neither did the main contractor Stewart Milne construction, 

[Red Clive 1995]

4 minutes ago, dave_min said:

Both redevelopments in Edinburgh are pish. We can do better

I always think that. ER looks utter shite and tyncastles redeveloped pile of horse muck is the most over rated stadium on the planet. Edinburgh is shit and a myth. Aberdonia rules 🤜🏻 

[RUL]

33 minutes ago, ERNIE said:

They must have been planning to rebuild the other stands one at a time after the RDS was built.Was there not something then about clearing the Smc debt by selling Pittodrie for flats?No doubt Stewart Milne or Ian Donald could give us the whole story. A 30 year saga anyway.Pretty poor when other smaller clubs have all managed either to rebuild or build new stadiums.

My recollection is after it was built the board couldn't afford it and Milne joined the board. He then began immediately talking about how we'd have to leave pittodrie.

I also recall a fan event where a board member said the land behind south was not available for sale and couldn't be built on.

So I don't think there was anything behind the new beach end other than it needed replaced and the board over extended themselves.

[RUL]

I think my post may have caused this thread and it's definitely been taken out of context if so 😂

It's more a development the club will invest in that they feel can bring in returns than a new roof etc 

[Topi Kat]

37 minutes ago, RUL said:

I think my post may have caused this thread and it's definitely been taken out of context if so 😂

It's more a development the club will invest in that they feel can bring in returns than a new roof etc 

Stop teasing us! Spill the beans....

[Topi Kat]

For what it's worth, I think the physical redevelopment of Pittodrie is a non-starter and kinda what I was suggesting about doing small things to tart it up a bit.

The costs for knocking down existing stands and replacing them probably outweighs the concept of building from scratch. Plus you're limiting your attendance income whilst the stand is out of commission. Add to that the RDS which would still stand out like a sore thumb and in terms of usable space in the middle tier, is pathetic.

Unfortunately, I think it's as RUL alludes to - a few new pie stalls and maybe building a supporters bar. Things to generate revenue as we pass time in a holding circle waiting for a local authority who'll be understanding to our needs and what the club brings to the city.

[fine-n-dandy]

Jumbo tron screens in middle like the ice hockey but make it also a free standing area so we can run all about on top of it to watch end to end games

[aberdeen1970]

If they knocked down the south and merkland stands they could easily do something creative with that space from the main stand corner right round to the RDS corner 

[Zeus]

Leave it as is. Including that missing bit in the Dick Donald.

[davieb]

Just put a dome over the whole thing!

[dave_min]

18 minutes ago, davieb said:

Just put a dome over the whole thing!

Remove the whole roof

[davieb]

16 minutes ago, dave_min said:

Remove the whole roof

Yep, big inflatable made out of recycled bin bags, renove the roofs, and put in a big sun lamp and deckchairs!

[Schapenneuker]

2 hours ago, ERNIE said:

They must have been planning to rebuild the other stands one at a time after the RDS was built.Was there not something then about clearing the Smc debt by selling Pittodrie for flats?No doubt Stewart Milne or Ian Donald could give us the whole story. A 30 year saga anyway.Pretty poor when other smaller clubs have all managed either to rebuild or build new stadiums.

It was an Iain Donald vanity project. 

These big individual stands were all the rage at the time, so he wanted one. 

It's a breeze block Paul Bernard...also a vanity project.

[ericblack4boss]

4 hours ago, Red Clive 1995 said:

Just take down the souther, then the merky can finish up on the Mainer. One by one replace the stadium and within 5 year pittodrie is a northern star in the stadium league. 
 

I watched a show about the erection of the Elizabeth line for the underground in London the other week, if they can manage thon in London in yon confinements, surely we can do similar up here. 
 

I Ken mare than a puckle folk that can operate a slew under pressure. (4muck cairts to een slew) that would thrive in this situation. 

Now now min would need  teuchters to yoke the slews and cairts,  can you imagine asking a toonser to hook on a pick up hitch,  or be waiting  for days for them to hook on a bucket on a slew then they would  throw a track start to bubble and ffuck off home.

Also would need a some manitous and loadalls

[Topi Kat]

1 hour ago, davieb said:

Just put a dome over the whole thing!

What, like Chernobyl?

[dave_min]

41 minutes ago, davieb said:

Yep, big inflatable made out of recycled bin bags, renove the roofs, and put in a big sun lamp and deckchairs!

NO ROOF.

[Dunty]

16 hours ago, Topi Kat said:

Has been suggested in the new stadium thread

Aye by you!

2 hours ago, RUL said:

I think my post may have caused this thread and it's definitely been taken out of context if so 😂

It's more a development the club will invest in that they feel can bring in returns than a new roof etc 

Aye, so the corporate bit basically.

Delete the thread.

[Topi Kat]

4 minutes ago, Dunty said:

Aye by you!

Yes, that's what I was alluding to hombre.

[Snelders Snottters 89]

Id love it if they could redevelop the main stand and merkland 

[davieb]

29 minutes ago, Topi Kat said:

What, like Chernobyl?

Exactly, totally possible!

[NEM]

4 hours ago, Schapenneuker said:

Hearts managed to expand their main stand on pretty much exactly the same footprint. As did Hibs. 

If we wanted to do it, then engineering wise, there's nothing to stop us. Financially is different. 

Btw, I fucking hate the RDS. Iain Donald's folly, and anyone with any vision at that time should have been thinking about the ground as a whole, not just chucking tens of millions at one massive carbunkle.

 

lol

[Topi Kat]

20 minutes ago, NEM said:

lol

Was around £7-8m of there abouts to build was it not?

[NEM]

7 minutes ago, Topi Kat said:

Was around £7-8m of there abouts to build was it not?

£4.5 million

[Red Clive 1995]

1 hour ago, ericblack4boss said:

Now now min would need  teuchters to yoke the slews and cairts,  can you imagine asking a toonser to hook on a pick up hitch,  or be waiting  for days for them to hook on a bucket on a slew then they would  throw a track start to bubble and ffuck off home.

Also would need a some manitous and loadalls

Toonsers only Ken 9 till 5 and only yoke 5 days a wik. Tuechtars could get the stadium sorted in a month nae bother.