Scottish Independence Referendum 2

[Old manny]

You do know the UK pension is one of the lowest in Europe and most of the other countries its lower than Dont have Oil

 

Scotland the only country in the world to poor to be independent well this is what they said about malta in 1959 so normal people can see through this scaremongering shit.

 

Neat bit of fancy footwork there by ignoring the obvious fact that had we voted leave our economy would have been a busted flush due to the plummeting oil price and instead concentrating on the Malta strawman. I am acutely aware of the low level of old age pensions here compared with Europe, but it does not take a financial genius to work out they would have of necessity been a whole lot lower had we left at that particular time and no amount of pretty graphs changes that.

[manboobs109]

^ The Oil Price still dropped, why isn't the economy a busted flush now? Tory Government bailing out Scotland Old Manny?

[Old manny]

^ The Oil Price still dropped, why isn't the economy a busted flush now? Tory Government bailing out Scotland Old Manny?

I couldn't possibly comment

 

Och well if you insist boobies. Enjoy!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnett_formula

[Parklife]

A link to the wiki page for the Barnett Formula.

 

LOL.

[manboobs109]

I couldn't possibly comment

 

Och well if you insist boobies. Enjoy!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnett_formula

Didn't have you down as a big Tory unionist

[Old manny]

A link to the wiki page for the Barnett Formula.

 

LOL.

I was going to post the Torygraph explanation, but you ken fit like titties gets when faced with words of more than three syllables.

[Old manny]

Didn't have you down as a big Tory unionist

Luke warm unionist, but no fucking Tory. Canna be done with the Royal family Jakeys either for good measure.

[manboobs109]

Luke warm unionist, but no fucking Tory. Canna be done with the Royal family Jakeys either for good measure.

Just swallow their propaganda

[Old manny]

Just swallow their propaganda

Yer being obscure again min. Spit oot exactly fit you mean and I will try and respond.

[caledonia]

Neat bit of fancy footwork there by ignoring the obvious fact that had we voted leave our economy would have been a busted flush due to the plummeting oil price and instead concentrating on the Malta strawman. I am acutely aware of the low level of old age pensions here compared with Europe, but it does not take a financial genius to work out they would have of necessity been a whole lot lower had we left at that particular time and no amount of pretty graphs changes that.

So fucking what other countries economy’s go up and down

 

Scotlands to poor again bla bla bla

[Arabian Knight]

Yer being obscure again min. Spit oot exactly fit you mean and I will try and respond.

the cunts been ticklin yer baws fir twa week..ez gittin richt cryptic the noo..mist b oan a new strain eh cooncil wi mare gade year tyre rubber in it

[manboobs109]

the cunts been ticklin yer baws fir twa week..ez gittin richt cryptic the noo..mist b oan a new strain eh cooncil wi mare gade year tyre rubber in it

It's my new thing AK. Manboobs of Mystery. Keep the cunts guessing.

[Arabian Knight]

eh ken..auld mannys jist clickd the nicht ffs..ye mist hid tae byte yer tung innaw wi wit perklife wis firin oot wi aboot ez coast trip..yer pliying the long gemme

[manboobs109]

^ you knows it fool

[Arabian Knight]

jist mindet there wan hing thit wis a bit snotty noset wis ez dismissin the 1.25 lidl ipa is a pare mannys punk

[Parklife]

jist mindet there wan hing thit wis a bit snotty noset wis ez dismissin the 1.25 lidl ipa is a pare mannys punk

You tried the pink labelled one in the same range from Lidl? Elvis juice copy. Not bad. 6.4% and still £1.25 a bottle.

[Arabian Knight]

naw but ehl seek it oot..thon brichtlichts is a fine drap

[Old manny]

So fucking what other countries economy’s go up and down

 

Scotlands to poor again bla bla bla

What kind of reply is that? Do you or do you not accept that Scotland would have had to go cap in hand to the IMF after the oil price crisis if we had voted leave? Would they have set tough conditions on any loan including a demand for tough austerity measures like they did with Greece? I voted leave last time, but the oil crash was a real wake up call for me and it seems churlish in the extreme that some Nationalists are in denial about this. If the SNP are to have any hope of gaining independence they must be honest with the people and explain the risks as well as the possible benefits and they must have a clear and costed plan over things like the currency and a possible hard border with England.

[zander]

Caledonia in copying from Indy Blogs shocker.

[Old manny]

It's my new thing AK. Manboobs of Mystery. Keep the cunts guessing.

Your a puzzle right enough and no mistake Manboobs, 

 

eh ken..auld mannys jist clickd the nicht ffs..

That's because I'm a handsome old cunt who is irresistible to the old wifies.

[muttonhumper]

A link to the wiki page for the Barnett Formula.

 

LOL.

 

Used as a case for the union. 

 

A clear indicator of being utterly clueless as to the economic relationship between Scotland and their imperial masters.

[caledonia]

What kind of reply is that? Do you or do you not accept that Scotland would have had to go cap in hand to the IMF after the oil price crisis if we had voted leave? Would they have set tough conditions on any loan including a demand for tough austerity measures like they did with Greece? I voted leave last time, but the oil crash was a real wake up call for me and it seems churlish in the extreme that some Nationalists are in denial about this. If the SNP are to have any hope of gaining independence they must be honest with the people and explain the risks as well as the possible benefits and they must have a clear and costed plan over things like the currency and a possible hard border with England.

Did any of the 51 countries that left the british empire since ww2 give a clear and costed plan?

 

I believe in independence at any cost so why would i bother if every single aspect of it was costed or not.

[Jocky Balboa]

What those who parrot the oil crash don't factor in, is that the UK is (along with Iraq) the only oil producing country in the world that doesn't have a sovereign wealth fund. It's not just Norway that wisely managed their volatile and finite resources. If we are to sensibly debate the oil issue, the questions should be why did Scotland not benefit in the way many oil producing countries have? Why were the hundreds of billions in tax receipts not put to better use?

 

IMHO the oil issue is a poor argument on both sides; many who advocate independence purely on the basis we'd supposedly be richer are making a superficial argument, whereas those who use it as a stick to beat us over the head with, are being selective in their only citing the volatility and finite nature of it.

 

FWIW, th key argument should be about who decides our future, in which there is massive potential for renewable energy. Who do we trust to manage that resource; the people of Scotland, who under independence will always get the government they vote for and will thus be in charge of their own destiny, or the same London-centric parties who squandered the last half-century of oil wealth?

[maryhilldon]

Luke warm unionist, but no fucking Tory. Canna be done with the Royal family Jakeys either for good measure.

Unionist? Hun. You're dead to me.

[Old manny]

Used as a case for the union. 

 

A clear indicator of being utterly clueless as to the economic relationship between Scotland and their imperial masters.

Sober up min. Scotland joined the Union in 1707 as everyone who was anyone at that time had been bankrupted by the Darien debacle and England refunded the losses as part of the agreement. I would also remind you that Scotland did pretty well out of the Empire and the profits built many of the finest buildings in our major cities. The Empire was created by force of arms, and I do not recall England forcing Scotland to take part and we were only too happy to join in the free for all. The fact is, which you don't seem to get, that most Scots are happy with the modern relationship despite the Tory cunts and there is no sign of a surge of support for Independence even with Brexit looming.

[Old manny]

Unionist? Hun. You're dead to me.

 

That's a fucking relief.

[Old manny]

 

I believe in independence at any cost so why would i bother if every single aspect of it was costed or not.

Fair enough, but just remember not to bombard us with graphs and statistics given that the economic ramifications of independence makes no difference to you whatsoever. Selfish view, but there you go.

[caledonia]

Fair enough, but just remember not to bombard us with graphs and statistics given that the economic ramifications of independence makes no difference to you whatsoever. Selfish view, but there you go.

Its an open forum so i can post whatever i feel like

 

And as for selfish it’s more selfish to deny your kids/grandkids their own country

 

Would you let your neighbores run your house

[BWG]

The more Westminster fuck things up the stronger the case for an independent Scotland gets. Rock on you crazy shithouse.

[Old manny]

Its an open forum so i can post whatever i feel like

 

And as for selfish it’s more selfish to deny your kids/grandkids their own country

 

Would you let your neighbores run your house

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but as you have clearly stated you do not give a fuck about the economic ramifications of independence it seems strange you would employ statistics to justify separation.

 

 Rock on you crazy shithouse.

Great song, but I prefer Shine on you Crazy Diamond myself.