New Stadium Approved

[Tommy]

Going back to that small discussion on here about maintenance costs - stadiums for the World Cup estimated at £2.3m-£5.7m a year http://www.dw.com/en/who-will-pay-for-russias-oversized-world-cup-stadiums/a-43350611

 

From such information I can only take that the idea of saving money from Pittodrie maintenance costs is incorrect.

Are those estimated costs not between 7 stadiums?

[Panda]

 

The travel plan states:

 

"Free shuttle buses to transport supporters from the City Centre and Park and Ride sites at Kingswells, Dyce and Bridge of Don."

 

The detailed shuttle bus timetable then states the City Centre pickups as Rose Street, College Street and Shiprow.

That travel plan is away to be ripped up though. Chances are this new travel committee thing or whatever it's to be called will say they need to massively increase the number of journeys and buses being used, meaning increased costs. Aberdeen might take the hit for a season or two but long term it doesn't sound sustainable, they'll have to charge at some point. Especially if, as I think they should do, they actually go and purchase their own buses for their own exclusive use.

[Tommy]

Especially if, as I think they should do, they actually go and purchase their own buses for their own exclusive use.

Panda min, are you aware how much a bus costs?

There is no chance that AFC will go and buy buses.

[TheRock]

To use for a couple hours 20 times a year.

 

I guess they could also use a a couple for away games. I assume they just hire a couple from Central at the moment.

[pocrawred]

I wouldna hae a problem if charges for travel to stadia fae the start.

[brownie]

Abz Red, I'll be parking in front of your house when the stadium is built.

[Scotty_Toronto]

35,000-45,000.

 

Rostov's for example

 

The problem with a stadium as old as Pittodrie is that maintenance costs will only rise.

 

Eventually it'll be futile.

[dave_min]

Panda min, are you aware how much a bus costs?

There is no chance that AFC will go and buy buses.

The only way to make that viable would be to have the busses working 7 days a week.... like an external bus company would.

[TheRock]

DNA members will want to use the stadium bar every night.

[ABZ RED]

That travel plan is away to be ripped up though. Chances are this new travel committee thing or whatever it's to be called will say they need to massively increase the number of journeys and buses being used, meaning increased costs. Aberdeen might take the hit for a season or two but long term it doesn't sound sustainable, they'll have to charge at some point. Especially if, as I think they should do, they actually go and purchase their own buses for their own exclusive use.

 

All correct except the last line, as Tommy was saying.

 

 

The problem with a stadium as old as Pittodrie is that maintenance costs will only rise.

 

Eventually it'll be futile.

 

Yes, but I think the context of the maintenance costs were in whether Kingsford was affordable. People were counting it as a saving that would go towards (£7m ) loan repayments.

[Panda]

Panda min, are you aware how much a bus costs?

There is no chance that AFC will go and buy buses.

But they'll rent 42 buses 18-24 times a season?

 

They don't even need to buy 42 buses. They could buy 10. They should have their own stock, first to increase the number of journeys, and secondly because if we get a Scottish Cup replay at 10 days notice they may find 42 buses aren't available.

 

They may even get a council/government subsidy anyway if they a) went electric (government desperate to roll these out to reach their targets) and b) made a big play of the fact it reduces car usage and is not for profit.

[aberdeen1970]

Buses cost 200k upwards plus running costs. I can't see the club buying a fleet of buses somehow.

[dave_min]

But they'll rent 42 buses 18-24 times a season?

 

They don't even need to buy 42 buses. They could buy 10. They should have their own stock, first to increase the number of journeys, and secondly because if we get a Scottish Cup replay at 10 days notice they may find 42 buses aren't available.

 

They may even get a council/government subsidy anyway if they a) went electric (government desperate to roll these out to reach their targets) and b) made a big play of the fact it reduces car usage and is not for profit.

Give it a rest.

[Guest RosemountRed]

Buses cost 200k upwards plus running costs. I can't see the club buying a fleet of buses somehow.

 

That will not be happening.

[CraigHill]

Abz Red, I'll be parking in front of your house when the stadium is built.

Doesnt have a house.

Spends his /her / its whole life socialising in the pub.

Cool as fuck guy / gal.

[BWG]

Doesnt have a house.

Spends his /her / its whole life socialising in the pub.

Cool as fuck guy / gal.

I'm pretty sure he lives in Govan.

[V for Vendetta]

Doesnt have a house.

Spends his /her / its whole life socialising in the pub.

Cool as fuck guy / gal.

C'mon now that's ridiculous.

 

Of course he has a home.

 

He just doesn't go home because it's 35 mins walk from the pub and buses are crap and the whole pub to house, house to pub travel situation is clearly nonsense that no sane person would ever waste time on.

[maryhilldon]

That travel plan is away to be ripped up though. Chances are this new travel committee thing or whatever it's to be called will say they need to massively increase the number of journeys and buses being used, meaning increased costs. Aberdeen might take the hit for a season or two but long term it doesn't sound sustainable, they'll have to charge at some point. Especially if, as I think they should do, they actually go and purchase their own buses for their own exclusive use.

Why should the shuttle bus's be free? Just pay £2 and recline on your way to watch the finest team in the land playing in the finest ground in the land. Good times ahead, mark my words.

[NEM]

But they'll rent 42 buses 18-24 times a season?

 

They don't even need to buy 42 buses. They could buy 10. They should have their own stock, first to increase the number of journeys, and secondly because if we get a Scottish Cup replay at 10 days notice they may find 42 buses aren't available.

 

They may even get a council/government subsidy anyway if they a) went electric (government desperate to roll these out to reach their targets) and b) made a big play of the fact it reduces car usage and is not for profit.

 

 

Meanwhile back in the real world......

[Dynamo]

But they'll rent 42 buses 18-24 times a season?

 

They don't even need to buy 42 buses. They could buy 10. They should have their own stock, first to increase the number of journeys, and secondly because if we get a Scottish Cup replay at 10 days notice they may find 42 buses aren't available.

 

They may even get a council/government subsidy anyway if they a) went electric (government desperate to roll these out to reach their targets) and b) made a big play of the fact it reduces car usage and is not for profit.

 

"Aye, we're bypassing the football budget this year (and next) to buy 10 busses. Thanks for signing up to AberDNA though."

 

Dreamland.

[maryhilldon]

Panda, what's he like?

[RAZOR]

 

"Aye, we're bypassing the football budget this year (and next) to buy 10 busses. Thanks for signing up to AberDNA though."

 

Dreamland.

Truly amazing that someone would actually believe that. Just wow.

[StandFree1982]

"rent 42 buses"

 

Fucking hell, Aberdeen FC would be competing with Stagecoach at this rate.

[Andy_123]

Aye what a ridiculous suggestion. We're a football club nae a bus company.

 

We'll have agreed some sort of daily compensation figure with First / Stagecoach for days we need priority use of their buses.

 

It's only 20-25ish days a year.

[Betty Swallicks]

That travel plan is away to be ripped up though. Chances are this new travel committee thing or whatever it's to be called will say they need to massively increase the number of journeys and buses being used, meaning increased costs. Aberdeen might take the hit for a season or two but long term it doesn't sound sustainable, they'll have to charge at some point. Especially if, as I think they should do, they actually go and purchase their own buses for their own exclusive use.

 

 

But they'll rent 42 buses 18-24 times a season?

 

They don't even need to buy 42 buses. They could buy 10. They should have their own stock, first to increase the number of journeys, and secondly because if we get a Scottish Cup replay at 10 days notice they may find 42 buses aren't available.

 

They may even get a council/government subsidy anyway if they a) went electric (government desperate to roll these out to reach their targets) and b) made a big play of the fact it reduces car usage and is not for profit.

 

[Panda]

"rent 42 buses"

 

Fucking hell, Aberdeen FC would be competing with Stagecoach at this rate.

They are renting/hiring 42 buses. Where did you they were coming from - do you think the bus companies were providing them free of charge?

[Ewebasher]

 

"Aye, we're bypassing the football budget this year (and next) to buy 10 busses. Thanks for signing up to AberDNA though."

 

Dreamland.

 

I thought the DNA money was going towards transforming Pittodrie into the terminal building for the monorail out to Kingsford...

[StandFree1982]

They are renting/hiring 42 buses. Where did you they were coming from - do you think the bus companies were providing them free of charge?

 

I wasn't disputing the fact we'll be hiring buses.

 

However, there is absolutely no chance we're renting 42 buses every matchday min.

[Ernie McCracken]

 

I thought the DNA money was going towards transforming Pittodrie into the terminal building for the monorail out to Kingsford...

As a founder member, if Aberdeen propose that is what they'll spend the DNA cash on then I'd vote for it.

[aberdeen1970]

Is there a bus depot in the Kingsford plans, we need a big shed for all these buses. Maybe that's why there isn't an indoor pitch