fine-n-dandy Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Didn’t take much effort. I remembered most of the players and it was just a case of looking up their Wikipedia page or the transfer market website. And this article that came up from a simple Google search https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/aberdeen-fc/five-dons-deals-failed1/If it’s one sided then that’s because I was focusing solely on dismantling and rubbishing your claim that the RDS fucked our playing budget for a decade. Mission accomplished.I wasn’t denying the costs of the RDS because I didn’t know how much it cost. Not a fuckin clue on that score, much like yourself , I suspect. And as for your comment that Dick Donald would have been against the stand being built ...... he was still the Chairman when the decision was made to build it.How can you say that buying players (ignoring the selling of players to offset this) is the only thing that fkd our playing budget when the white elephant stand cost a fortune at same period. The debts that were accumulated over those earlier years totally restricted our playing budget latterly because were were struggling to even make the interest payments of the debt we had. That debt we had that was generously cleared a few years ago was hung around our neck by the DD stand mostly.To deny this is ridiculous 1 Link to comment
NEM Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 How can you say that buying players (ignoring the selling of players to offset this) is the only thing that fkd our playing budget when the white elephant stand cost a fortune at same period. The debts that were accumulated over those earlier years totally restricted our playing budget latterly because were were struggling to even make the interest payments of the debt we had. That debt we had that was generously cleared a few years ago was hung around our neck by the DD stand mostly.To deny this is ridiculousThe RDS cost £4.5 million. The debt was over 3 times that number Milne appointing and subsequently paying off a series of halfwits and sanctioning transfers like £850k for Brian O’Neill and the Robbie Winters/Billy Dodds fiasco is what caused the debt. He also had the brass neck to hang around the club like a bad smell after he got someone else to pay it off for him The mans a cancer on our club and Scottish football as a whole Link to comment
redone Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 How can you say that buying players (ignoring the selling of players to offset this) is the only thing that fkd our playing budget when the white elephant stand cost a fortune at same period.The debts that were accumulated over those earlier years totally restricted our playing budget latterly because were were struggling to even make the interest payments of the debt we had.That debt we had that was generously cleared a few years ago was hung around our neck by the DD stand mostly.To deny this is ridiculousYou seem to think that I’m saying that it was only the costs of buying players fucked our playing budget. Where have I said that ?You’re the one that pinned the blame solely on the RDS . FAR more one sided than my comments. Although you’ve toned that down a bit now by saying it was mostly the RDS that accounted for the debt. Obviously the costs of building the RDS will have had an impact on the club’s overall finances. As did the inflated transfer fees we paid throughout the 1990s after the costs of the RDS had been incurred. From the Wikipedia page about Pittodrie , the RDS cost £4.5 million to build. These transfer fees I’ve listed amount to far more than that. We also paid transfer fees amounting to about £1million for Paatelainen , Shearer and Richardson in 1992 when the RDS was being built. And these figures for transfer fees don’t include any fees we paid for the dozens of other players we had on our books throughout the decade after the RDS was built. Nor do these figures include the wages for all the players. So from these figures it’s more ridiculous to pin the blame for the debt mainly on the RDS. Even moreso if the RDS has generated increased corporate income for the club over the years , and even if the boxes weren’t packed out every home game. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 You seem to think that I’m saying that it was only the costs of buying players fucked our playing budget. Where have I said that ?You’re the one that pinned the blame solely on the RDS . FAR more one sided than my comments. Although you’ve toned that down a bit now by saying it was mostly the RDS that accounted for the debt.Obviously the costs of building the RDS will have had an impact on the club’s overall finances. As did the inflated transfer fees we paid throughout the 1990s after the costs of the RDS had been incurred.From the Wikipedia page about Pittodrie , the RDS cost £4.5 million to build. These transfer fees I’ve listed amount to far more than that. We also paid transfer fees amounting to about £1million for Paatelainen , Shearer and Richardson in 1992 when the RDS was being built.And these figures for transfer fees don’t include any fees we paid for the dozens of other players we had on our books throughout the decade after the RDS was built. Nor do these figures include the wages for all the players.So from these figures it’s more ridiculous to pin the blame for the debt mainly on the RDS. Even moreso if the RDS has generated increased corporate income for the club over the years , and even if the boxes weren’t packed out every home game.Did I say 'solely' the DD? I said the DD most certainly did affect our playing budget negatively Not mentioning the the buying of players doesn't mean I didn't think that did also latterly both things affected it negatively You implied it was solely the buying of players if you want to go down that route. So much so you even ignored the selling of players to offset this & tried to say that that was the sole reason for our debts spiraling upwards out of control. The combination of the two had the negative effect in latter years & the interest payments got too much/ridiculous Why don't you add in player sales to your one sided list to compare Go & re-read my post & tell me where I said it solely affected our playing budget.I said the DD had a massive effect on it. It fkd our playing budget for a decade or something similarI didn't then tame it down. Just because I didn't include all other things that negatively affected our budget doesn't mean I think it was solely the DD. the DD massively affected our playing budgets in latter years via the debts it's helped create. The debt started to increase year on year because we couldn't make reducing payments. That clearly meant our playing budgets were negatively affected 1 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 The ability of Aberdeen fans never ceases to amaze me. That's a couple of dissertations produced during the night Link to comment
G31DON Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Euro millions jackpot is £105 million on Friday night. Everyone buy a ticket.No winner on Friday. Up to 125 million on Tuesday, get your ticket, win the jackpot, buy a stadium, name it after yourself. 1 Link to comment
alscotoz Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 The ability of Aberdeen fans never ceases to amaze me. That's a couple of dissertations produced during the night To do what? Link to comment
KidCreole Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 The rds is and was a total carbunkle of a construction.I ken a boy who worked on it, Apparently the shuttering was to big a job for the people involved and they fucked it costing the club a fortune Link to comment
redone Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Did I say 'solely' the DD?I said the DD most certainly did affect our playing budget negatively Not mentioning the the buying of players doesn't mean I didn't think that did also latterly both things affected it negatively You implied it was solely the buying of players if you want to go down that route. So much so you even ignored the selling of players to offset this & tried to say that that was the sole reason for our debts spiraling upwards out of control. The combination of the two had the negative effect in latter years & the interest payments got too much/ridiculous Why don't you add in player sales to your one sided list to compareGo & re-read my post & tell me where I said it solely affected our playing budget.I said the DD had a massive effect on it. It fkd our playing budget for a decade or something similarI didn't then tame it down. Just because I didn't include all other things that negatively affected our budget doesn't mean I think it was solely the DD.the DD massively affected our playing budgets in latter years via the debts it's helped create. The debt started to increase year on year because we couldn't make reducing payments. That clearly meant our playing budgets were negatively affectedYou never used the word “solely” , but then I never said you did. You made the bald statement that “The DD stand fkd our playing budget for well over a decade”. In that post of yours you didn’t mention any other factor as having affected the playing budget negatively. In other words the DD stand was the only factor which you stated as having fucked our playing budget. .....ie you pinned the blame solely on the RDS. My original post only mentioned the high transfer fees we paid after the RDS was built to demonstrate that our playing budget wasn’t actually fucked in the subsequent decade. Unless , of course , your definition of “fucked” is wide enough to include the club spending their highest ever transfer fee for Bernard , which is still the only time a Scottish club other than the Ugly Sisters has paid a million quid for a player. But , as I said , you toned it down a bit , and explained that your written words didn’t actually fully set out what you were thinking. So thanks for clearing that up for those of that aren’t mind-readers. 1 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 You never used the word “solely” , but then I never said you did. You made the bald statement that “The DD stand fkd our playing budget for well over a decade”. In that post of yours you didn’t mention any other factor as having affected the playing budget negatively. In other words the DD stand was the only factor which you stated as having fucked our playing budget. .....ie you pinned the blame solely on the RDS. My original post only mentioned the high transfer fees we paid after the RDS was built to demonstrate that our playing budget wasn’t actually fucked in the subsequent decade. Unless , of course , your definition of “fucked” is wide enough to include the club spending their highest ever transfer fee for Bernard , which is still the only time a Scottish club other than the Ugly Sisters has paid a million quid for a player.But , as I said , you toned it down a bit , and explained that your written words didn’t actually fully set out what you were thinking. So thanks for clearing that up for those of that aren’t mind-readers.Post 06:51 second sentence You said I pinned the blame solely on the DD & now you are attacking my baldness Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 The Dick Donald was purely a means for Milne to leverage his way into control of the club, thought that was well known? The debt accrued by the club was by overspending chasing success and TV money that never materialised, see the whole of Scottish football.Hignett got a £400k loyalty bonus when he left (amount might be wrong), after not competing his contract, that’s how ridiculous our finances and deals were...........along with deals like Winters/Dodds. The DD certainly added to our financial idiocy, but it certainly wasn’t as big a hindrance as our stupid spending on players and wages Link to comment
davieb Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 The Dick Donald was purely a means for Milne to leverage his way into control of the club, thought that was well known? The debt accrued by the club was by overspending chasing success and TV money that never materialised, see the whole of Scottish football.Hignett got a £400k loyalty bonus when he left (amount might be wrong), after not competing his contract, that’s how ridiculous our finances and deals were...........along with deals like Winters/Dodds. The DD certainly added to our financial idiocy, but it certainly wasn’t as big a hindrance as our stupid spending on players and wages I doubt very much Hignett got a "loyalty bonus", he asked for a transfer. Link to comment
davieb Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 In addition to the transfers paid, how many management teams did Aberdeen sack / pay-off during the 90 / 00s? Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I doubt very much Hignett got a "loyalty bonus", he asked for a transfer.My numbers were way off, he was on 8k a week and got quarterly loyalty bonuses of around £18k, sold for £800k. I can’t find the article but I’m sure he got a big cut of the transfer fee too........ Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 At least Hignett was a very good player. Spending money on Tommy Fucking Wright though.....that man should have been jailed for being a fraud. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 hignett's quarterly bonus was certainly taken as gospel at the time Link to comment
alscotoz Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 hignett's quarterly bonus was certainly taken as gospel at the time Until Reliable Source comes forward with the truth, I'll take that with a shed load of salt. ASSuming he hasn't fucked off. Link to comment
Tommy Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Fraser saying it’s likely he will let his contract run down.Hopefully that gets some interest soon. Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Fraser saying it’s likely he will let his contract run down.Hopefully that gets some interest soon.Arsenal seem to have turned attention to Yannick Carrasco for left wing... so looking like they are out of the 'bidding war' Link to comment
NEM Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Fraser saying it’s likely he will let his contract run down.Hopefully that gets some interest soon. If that turns out to be the case a career ender is hopefully in the post for the plooky wee cunt 4 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 He's just boxing clever. That statement tells Bournemouth that he has no plans to sign a new deal there. It also alerts clubs that he's definitely up for a move. I'd imagine Bournemouth will choose to sell as he's halfway out of the door in his head now anyway Link to comment
JakieBastard Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 He's just boxing clever. That statement tells Bournemouth that he has no plans to sign a new deal there. It also alerts clubs that he's definitely up for a move. I'd imagine Bournemouth will choose to sell as he's halfway out of the door in his head now anywayAye, that's the sort of quote that was fed to him from his agent. It doesn't say he wants away but allows everyone to read between the lines. I'm just wondering who might blink first. Man U have just signed that Swansea winger so can't imagine it's a priority for them any more Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 If they don't sell him & he runs down his contract. Do we have to give them the £6m back? Link to comment
boboisared Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Surprised he didn't tell the press there was no clause, rather than state it's good we'll get something. Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 If they don't sell him & he runs down his contract. Do we have to give them the £6m back? That's Milne on antdepressants and nerve pills. 1 Link to comment
Kiriakov33 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I’ll put the tin hat on and say that he isnt worth anywhere near 20 million let alone 30 or 40.. would be astonished if he goes to a top 5 or 6 EPL club. My guess is that Everton will offer 12 and he will eventually go for around 15. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I’ll put the tin hat on and say that he isnt worth anywhere near 20 million let alone 30 or 40.. would be astonished if he goes to a top 5 or 6 EPL club. My guess is that Everton will offer 12 and he will eventually go for around 15.Even in that scenario We'd still get 3m though which would almost double our record transfer fee received. And that for a player who hasn't been here for about 6 years Link to comment
Tord31 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I'd think there is a deal to be done but maybe clubs are just trying to sit it out given Bournemouth looking for £30M (The Sun) Link to comment
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