Coronavirus

[maryhilldon]

4 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

Aye you n a. Bore the fuck out of everyone why dontcha. 

Fuck off then if you're bored.  It's a chat forum. 

[Parklife]

3 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

But there is always going to be a risk. Do we have to do away with live football, gigs, pubs, restaurants forever because it's looking that way. 

You're confusing a year or so with "forever" again. 

[Misers Hill]

47 minutes ago, Studebaker-90 said:

I’ve sent it back and told them to make it again with urine in it like I asked 

Did the waiter make a remark about,that he puts butter in his coffee??

[maryhilldon]

1 minute ago, rocket_scientist said:

I've fucked off. 

You obviously haven't. 

[Parklife]

1 minute ago, Millertime said:

Yeah but that was logical from the off

The best of intentioned people are going to be less likely to social distance when pished 

Hardly ground breaking 

I agree. Weird that after 7 months Fridge doesn't get it. 

[manboobs109]

3 minutes ago, Parklife said:

You're confusing a year or so with "forever" again. 

You are confusing your opinion with fact again Parky. 

[manboobs109]

3 minutes ago, Misers Hill said:

Did the waiter make a remark about,that he puts butter in his coffee??

Butter coffee is a thing man. Sounds mingling but a few people do it on a keto diet. 

[Fridge]

And then instead of following rules with barstaff busting your balls if you don’t wear a mask - Absolutely correctly, Folk will have house parties where there will be fuck all governance and meanwhile the economy is going to fuck.

[Parklife]

2 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

You are confusing your opinion with fact again Parky. 

How so? I never claimed anything was a fact. It's looking like we're doing without these things for a year or so. Not "forever". Honestly, you're such a drama queen. 

[Guest milne_afc]

Is there any evidence that closing pubs has a drastic effect on the economy? As far as I can see, folk who have had foreign holidays cancelled and fewer nights on the vino collapso are increasing spending on home improvements and family trips to more local attractions etc. 

Think the UK had over 2% growth in the last reported quarter which would usually be a massive success. 

[redstrummer]

12 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

But there is always going to be a risk. Do we have to do away with live football, gigs, pubs, restaurants forever because it's looking that way. 

No not forever but you know that .

[manboobs109]

2 minutes ago, Parklife said:

How so? I never claimed anything was a fact. It's looking like we're doing without these things for a year or so. Not "forever". Honestly, you're such a drama queen. 

Why is it looking like that? What happens in March/April that changes? 

[manboobs109]

Just now, redstrummer said:

No not forever but you know that .

How do I know that? Explain to me how it changes? 

[redstrummer]

1 minute ago, manboobs109 said:

How do I know that? Explain to me how it changes? 

you seemed to need an awful lot explained you . i'm not going to bother , parky's done enough of that without getting anywhere

[manboobs109]

Just now, redstrummer said:

you seemed to need an awful lot explained you . i'm not going to bother , parky's done enough of that without getting anywhere

So we do in a year what has never been done before and develop a vaccine for a coronavirus? An effective one with no side effects? In a year from a standing start? 

If you and Parky believe that I'm happy for you but don't patronise me or make me out to be stupid for having my doubts 

[Lencarl]

You have to ask yourself where do the "A" listers do their drinking in these strange times.

They do not drink in public houses.

They never complain about pub closures.

Are they drinking in Private Clubs with no restrictions.

Or do they all fly abroad to do their boozing.

[Parklife]

5 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Why is it looking like that? What happens in March/April that changes? 

Well a few things, I'd imagine (in my opinion, not fact just opinion - in case you're in doubt): 

1. There's quite a few vaccines that'll either give immunity or significantly reduce the impact of Covid in wide scale trials, were told these will be ready by early 2021  

2. We'll develop treatments for those suffering the harshest effects of the virus (this is already happening with some existing medicines being found to significantly improve outcomes). IMO this is bigger than a vaccine  

3. Even if number 1 doesn't come to pass, number 2 is and will and we'll have little choice but to get back to something much closer to normality. 

[Parklife]

All of the above IS MY OPINION

[manboobs109]

3 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Well a few things, I'd imagine (in my opinion, not fact just opinion - in case you're in doubt): 

1. There's quite a few vaccines that'll either give immunity or significantly reduce the impact of Covid in wide scale trials, were told these will be ready by early 2021  

2. We'll develop treatments for those suffering the harshest effects of the virus (this is already happening with some existing medicines being found to significantly improve outcomes). IMO this is bigger than a vaccine  

3. Even if number 1 doesn't come to pass, number 2 is and will and we'll have little choice but to get back to something much closer to normality. 

OK but if neither of those things come to pass, and there are sound reasons for believing they won't, then we are stuck with this forever aren't we? 

 

[Parklife]

2 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

OK but if neither of those things come to pass, and there are sound reasons for believing they won't, then we are stuck with this forever aren't we? 

Nr.2 is already happening. 

[maryhilldon]

Will someone that tests positive for covid during the winter months but then dies from flu within 28 days be classed as a covid death or a flu death? 

[manboobs109]

4 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Nr.2 is already happening. 

We've discovered one drug. My understanding is that it's pneumonia that finishes off covid patients in the main(happy for @Poodler to correct if that's wrong) and that finishes off tens of thousands of flu patients per year, with a vaccine and years of treatment experience behind it.

There will always be thousands of people per year dying from this, vaccine or not. We're going to be living with masks, social distancing and lockdowns for years to come. People are saying it and have been for months but it's been ignored in favour of talk of miracle vaccines and non existant medical treatments. 

[Studebaker-90]

34 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

We've discovered one drug. My understanding is that it's pneumonia that finishes off covid patients in the main(happy for @Poodler to correct if that's wrong) and that finishes off tens of thousands of flu patients per year, with a vaccine and years of treatment experience behind it.

There will always be thousands of people per year dying from this, vaccine or not. We're going to be living with masks, social distancing and lockdowns for years to come. People are saying it and have been for months but it's been ignored in favour of talk of miracle vaccines and non existant medical treatments. 

There are Steroid treatments being used today that significantly help with effects for serious Covid cases according to a few journals I have read. They’ll continue to find better treatments as well. I agree with parkie in saying this will be the key rather than the vaccine. Chin up matey, it won’t be forever. 

[manboobs109]

I know MT it's pointless. I really need to turn off from it all but it's difficult when you've got a business that's disappearing down the shitter for what would appear to be no reason. I'm sure Nicola and the rest are right, we'll go through this for a few months then it'll all be tickety boo. 

[Parklife]

21 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

The irony. 

Indeed. The moronic and weak willed troll calling other people idiots and trolls. 

[daytripping]

First they took away your rights, now they're taking away freedom of speech, disgusting cult.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/6147024/man-arrested-nicola-sturgeon-nazi-covid-funeral/

[daytripping]

Clarkson nails it.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/6143225/jeremy-clarkson-nicola-sturgeon-scotland-english/

[Lencarl]

8 minutes ago, daytripping said:

Clarkson nails it.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/6143225/jeremy-clarkson-nicola-sturgeon-scotland-english/

Anybody who listens to anything that so called celebrities say about anything needs to have a hard look at themselves.

They are not in the real world.

They are in a bubble of their own making.

Covid-19 is just a nuisance to them.

 

 

[Fridge]

2 hours ago, milne_afc said:

Is there any evidence that closing pubs has a drastic effect on the economy? As far as I can see, folk who have had foreign holidays cancelled and fewer nights on the vino collapso are increasing spending on home improvements and family trips to more local attractions etc. 

Think the UK had over 2% growth in the last reported quarter which would usually be a massive success. 

Possibly no evidence but bar staff, chippers, students nae working behind a bar and therefore nae spending cash in clothes shops etc . Taxis, folk nae being able to go to restaurants. 
 

I’ll put my cards down that I reckon  this has fucked  the economy.

[Redforever86]

There will be become a clear divide between the work from home spreadsheet elite and those who actually labour and create and think. 

Then there will be nothing for them to make spreadsheets about.