DD1903 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 10 hours ago, CCB III said: Point 1.) What is the point of private enterprise? To make profit. You seem very confident that for some reason, the NHS would be really well ran if privately owned or with further private involvement. It's bizarre when you consider the state of the rail, Mail and energy right now. These are glaring examples of the huge issue with privatisation. It needs funded on an as required basis as I said, not for profit. Profit will always put capital before people. The NHS needs more funding, it's really that simple. Not everything in the world has to be ran with capital interests. 2.) OK, and the Dutch, Germans, French all have vastly superior public sectors. They've found a sweet spot between public and private markets. Namely because the psyche of their people is pretty different to ours. In Britain, we're essentially still operating on the terms of class rule. Everything is open to capital to the detriment of people who need to use the service, so long as the capitalists are served and we stay servile. There's no evidence that bringing the NHS from public to private ownership will be anything than a fuckin disaster. Private companies are parasitical to our public sector. Namely because we have a government willing to let them in. 37,000,000,000 on a failed track and trace is a great example of this. How much good could that misspent money have done for the NHS? 37,000,000 and you could argue it's not that significant, but 37 BILLION. That's just what we know about as well. The nhs needs to start working more efficiently as well - would save time, resources and money. Like most (probably all) public sector, its miles behind the times, with working practices etc still being followed as 'this is how it's always been done'. Resistant to change is a massive issue in the public sector. Far too much bureaucracy from top to bottom, which ties up resources etc. Link to comment
Ramandu Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 12 hours ago, Parklife said: I find it mad that the biggest god botherers on here are massive Tories. Religion is some laugh. We God botherers come in all shapes and sizes. Left, right, somewhere in between. Me, I'm a free marketer cos I think that efficient use of resources -> poor people being richer But the God bothering is way more important than the economics. 12 hours ago, CCB III said: “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me" Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. Amen brother. Link to comment
Don Fonte Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, Ramandu said: We God botherers come in all shapes and sizes. Left, right, somewhere in between. Me, I'm a free marketer cos I think that efficient use of resources -> poor people being richer But the God bothering is way more important than the economics. Amen brother. Fuck off. Link to comment
elephantstone78 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 12 hours ago, tutankamun said: They just won’t let it go, Zeus has already told us the pandemic is over FFS. Scientists issue renewed calls for Covid isolation and masks to return this winter to 'protect the NHS' as study finds people are infectious for longer than expected https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11126515/amp/Face-masks-Scientists-issue-calls-Covid-isolation-return-winter-protect-NHS.html Yes, scientists are saying that, they’re scientists. It’s not actually a surprise. In a similar way they wear masks when in operating theatres. Out of interest do you object to that practice? It is up to our democratically elected politicians to analyse this information and consider the alternative view which am sure many will espouse and come to a recommendation. Hardly something to get your knickers in a twist about. 1 Link to comment
elephantstone78 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 30 minutes ago, Ramandu said: We God botherers come in all shapes and sizes. Left, right, somewhere in between. Me, I'm a free marketer cos I think that efficient use of resources -> poor people being richer But the God bothering is way more important than the economics. Amen brother. Sorry, am I reading this right? an efficient use of resources is better than poor people being richer? Seems awfully cold hearted and, well, unchristian. Link to comment
Ramandu Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, elephantstone78 said: Sorry, am I reading this right? an efficient use of resources is better than poor people being richer? Seems awfully cold hearted and, well, unchristian. Ah no, that symbol is (supposed to be) "leads to". Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 It’s alright loons, it’s over. 1 Link to comment
Jocky Balboa Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 51 minutes ago, elephantstone78 said: Yes, scientists are saying that, they’re scientists. It’s not actually a surprise. In a similar way they wear masks when in operating theatres. Out of interest do you object to that practice? It is up to our democratically elected politicians to analyse this information and consider the alternative view which am sure many will espouse and come to a recommendation. Hardly something to get your knickers in a twist about. I've heard the "operating theatre" argument countless times and it is a false equivalence. Surgical staff wear them to prevent them breathing over open wounds, etc. in a controlled environment. Such theatres also have clean room standards and mechanical ventilation systems that ensure multiple air change rates. Wearing a piece of cloth over your face in a shop or school classroom does not stop an airborne viral infection, it is a comfort blanket at best and toxic virtue signalling at worst. Given the (protein) spike in cases of myocarditis, pericarditis and other various cardiac issues arising since the jab rollouts (led by the company that paid the biggest criminal - not civil - fine in history, I might add) I think Tutankhamun, myself and others who have given the shots a wide berth have been vindicated. 2 Link to comment
elephantstone78 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 51 minutes ago, Jocky Balboa said: I've heard the "operating theatre" argument countless times and it is a false equivalence. Surgical staff wear them to prevent them breathing over open wounds, etc. in a controlled environment. Such theatres also have clean room standards and mechanical ventilation systems that ensure multiple air change rates. Wearing a piece of cloth over your face in a shop or school classroom does not stop an airborne viral infection, it is a comfort blanket at best and toxic virtue signalling at worst. Given the (protein) spike in cases of myocarditis, pericarditis and other various cardiac issues arising since the jab rollouts (led by the company that paid the biggest criminal - not civil - fine in history, I might add) I think Tutankhamun, myself and others who have given the shots a wide berth have been vindicated. Trust me JB you haven’t. Link to comment
Parklife Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Ramandu said: Me, I'm a free marketer cos I think that efficient use of resources -> poor people being richer Our economic system doesn't make resources be used efficiently. We're using and wasting the worlds resources so much that we're killing it ? Link to comment
Parklife Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Jocky Balboa said: Given the (protein) spike in cases of myocarditis, pericarditis and other various cardiac issues arising since the jab rollouts LOL Link to comment
jamiesd Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Jocky Balboa said: I've heard the "operating theatre" argument countless times and it is a false equivalence. Surgical staff wear them to prevent them breathing over open wounds, etc. in a controlled environment. Such theatres also have clean room standards and mechanical ventilation systems that ensure multiple air change rates. Wearing a piece of cloth over your face in a shop or school classroom does not stop an airborne viral infection, it is a comfort blanket at best and toxic virtue signalling at worst. Given the (protein) spike in cases of myocarditis, pericarditis and other various cardiac issues arising since the jab rollouts (led by the company that paid the biggest criminal - not civil - fine in history, I might add) I think Tutankhamun, myself and others who have given the shots a wide berth have been vindicated. Deffo cardiovascular issues locally in our NHS unfortunately (my place of work). Whether it’s covid or the jab who knows. I’d hazard a guess it’s a mixture of both. 1 Link to comment
tutankamun Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 9 hours ago, elephantstone78 said: Yes, scientists are saying that, they’re scientists. It’s not actually a surprise. In a similar way they wear masks when in operating theatres. Out of interest do you object to that practice? It is up to our democratically elected politicians to analyse this information and consider the alternative view which am sure many will espouse and come to a recommendation. Hardly something to get your knickers in a twist about. Good god, where to start with this Link to comment
tutankamun Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 21 hours ago, CCB III said: “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me"Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 9 hours ago, Ramandu said: We God botherers come in all shapes and sizes. Left, right, somewhere in between. Me, I'm a free marketer cos I think that efficient use of resources -> poor people being richer But the God bothering is way more important than the economics. Amen brother. Jesus H Christ, the God freaks have taken over the asylum. God help us all. Link to comment
JakieBastard Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 I love that in Tutankamun we have our own Alex Jones - next to Jocky Balboa being the Steve Bannon figure. Coming from the same place but taking very different approaches 1 Link to comment
tutankamun Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 40 minutes ago, JakieBastard said: I love that in Tutankamun we have our own Alex Jones - next to Jocky Balboa being the Steve Bannon figure. Coming from the same place but taking very different approaches Appreciate you love it etc. But what’s your opinion on all the shit that’s been happening? Are you with me or against me? Or ambivalent? Link to comment
Poodler Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 14 hours ago, Parklife said: LOL Do you doubt that cases of cardiac inflammation have risen in the post vaccine world? Link to comment
Parklife Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Poodler said: Do you doubt that cases of cardiac inflammation have risen in the post vaccine world? No. I was laughing at him referencing solely the vaccine, when the conditions he references are much more prevalent in people who've had covid, than people who have just had a vaccine. He's ignoring a much more likely cause and focussed on a less likely one as a justification for his stance. 1 1 Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Thon fits yi caan it, Yelleh eh yelleh eh yellih folkies disease. Yon flu, covid flu like thing yi caes it. The eh yellah CHYNEAH virus. Link to comment
Ohjimmyjimmy Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 http://Long Covid: Mum puts hopes in experimental treatment https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-62608386 At it. Link to comment
BrianFaePerth Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, Ohjimmyjimmy said: http://Long Covid: Mum puts hopes in experimental treatment https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-62608386 At it. You fucked up the link you useless arsehole 1 Link to comment
Beachend Bootboy Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, BrianFaePerth said: You fucked up the link you useless arsehole I thought that but thought it was the browser on me fone that wouldn't let me open it. Link to comment
Ohjimmyjimmy Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 ^How to confuse a pair of cunts Link to comment
Beachend Bootboy Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 48 minutes ago, Ohjimmyjimmy said: ^How to confuse a pair of cunts Clearly was not your intention. You fucked it. The end.? Link to comment
Beachend Bootboy Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Ohjimmyjimmy said: http://Long Covid: Mum puts hopes in experimental treatment https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-62608386 At it. Lang covid my erse. Saw her on the denner time news. Micro clots. Vaccine reaction, very conveniently blamed on the virus. Hah!!!! Link to comment
NEM Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/covid-scotland-excess-death-figures-to-be-examined-amid-concerns-about-lockdown-effects/ar-AA10Q3zL Wow did anyone see this coming….. ? Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, NEM said: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/covid-scotland-excess-death-figures-to-be-examined-amid-concerns-about-lockdown-effects/ar-AA10Q3zL Wow did anyone see this coming….. ? And it's only going to get worse. People forced into poverty because of that madness will have shorter life expectancy. It was worth it though, saved the NHS. Link to comment
Beachend Bootboy Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: And it's only going to get worse. People forced into poverty because of that madness will have shorter life expectancy. It was worth it though, saved the NHS. Global population reduction. All part of the plan. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Beachend Bootboy said: Global population reduction. All part of the plan. I'm not one for the conspiracy theories. An incompetent government, prompted by a hysterical media and drama queen population, panicked. Link to comment
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