super_al Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, jimmydragon said: I wouldnt completely write it off just yet. Are we still trying for Ronan or the second player? 1 Link to comment
Helmet Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 hour ago, thurso said: Ah so only certain teams in our league are classed as rivals. So we will loan players to anyone apart from hearts Or he doesn't class McLennan as a player. Link to comment
Daisy1903 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 hour ago, fine-n-dandy said: Or he knows McLennan is shite & Ramirez could be ‘effective’ but regardless, he’s still spoken shite then done something he said we wouldn’t do ? St’s were closer rivals to us than a hearts last season also tbf You've well and truly shat the bed Link to comment
TheRedPrawcess Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Ramirez has proven he can score 15 goals in a season. Currently misfiring or out of form, it still doesn't make sense to send him to a team we could likely be competing with for a league place or even European spot. He could offer Hearts something that could hurt us. All opinions aside about McLennan, on paper he is still young enough and needs more regular minutes than we'll give him, because he has potential to develop. A loan within the league to a team that shouldn't be giving us a scare is a good move for everyone involved. This is all pretty basic stuff. Answering my question by repeating my question says a lot. Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, super_al said: Are we still trying for Ronan or the second player? Ronan staying at Wolves this season according to a journo down there Link to comment
Frank Grimes Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, jimmydragon said: I wouldnt completely write it off just yet. The Dragon has spoken Mon Dandies Link to comment
Helmet Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, super_al said: Are we still trying for Ronan or the second player? Or maybe we are looking at a totally different player now a few have moved out. Why do people take every little comment Goodwin makes so completely pedantically? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, TheRedPrawcess said: Ramirez has proven he can score 15 goals in a season. Currently misfiring or out of form, it still doesn't make sense to send him to a team we could likely be competing with for a league place or even European spot. He could offer Hearts something that could hurt us. All opinions aside about McLennan, on paper he is still young enough and needs more regular minutes than we'll give him, because he has potential to develop. A loan within the league to a team that shouldn't be giving us a scare is a good move for everyone involved. This is all pretty basic stuff. Answering my question by repeating my question says a lot. But if they got him he’d be missing for games v us but the player they did get is younger/fitter/stronger & potentially far better & can play in games v us. Humphrys cannot be on worse form than Ramirez surely JG basically admitting he fears what Ramirez could do to damage us on loan at Hearts (even missing games v us) more than the loan Humphrys can do. That’s clearly poor management of a player he obviously rates/fears Link to comment
TheRedPrawcess Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: But if they got him he’d be missing for games v us but the player they did get is younger/fitter/stronger & potentially far better & can play in games v us. Humphrys cannot be on worse form than Ramirez surely JG basically admitting he fears what Ramirez could do to damage us on loan at Hearts (even missing games v us) more than the loan Humphrys can do. That’s clearly poor management of a player he obviously rates/fears Are you speculating there though? Do you actually know anything about this Humphrys? According to his stats he has averaged less than a goal every 4 games predominantly at league 1. What's that, 8 goals for the rest of the league season? That's all we have to go on. Goodwin obviously didn't know who they'd bring in instead either. It's a calculated risk. Send them someome we know can hit double figuers in the league, or leave them to last minute scramble about trying to find another loan? Regardless of what Humphrys does, it was the right call in my opinion to not send Ramirez to Hearts. Link to comment
Hoppy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 30 minutes ago, jimmydragon said: I wouldnt completely write it off just yet. ? ? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Who will be next for the scary JG axe? Ramirez Joe Lewis Watkins still 2 1/2 hrs of excitement ? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, TheRedPrawcess said: Are you speculating there though? Do you actually know anything about this Humphrys? According to his stats he has averaged less than a goal every 4 games predominantly at league 1. What's that, 8 goals for the rest of the league season? That's all we have to go on. Goodwin obviously didn't know who they'd bring in instead either. It's a calculated risk. Send them someome we know can hit double figuers in the league, or leave them to last minute scramble about trying to find another loan? Regardless of what Humphrys does, it was the right call in my opinion to not send Ramirez to Hearts. Certainly speculating but chances are they could easily find a player that could do as good or better than Ramirez & also be able to play against us. So makes sense to send him & weaken them. Even if (as I think he fears him) he can score a few for them. He cannot do so against us & we could potentially play them 5 times this season Link to comment
ThomohawkKid Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 40 minutes ago, jimmydragon said: I wouldnt completely write it off just yet. So your saying there’s a chance. that’ll do for me given the time on the clock. Link to comment
Donscanada Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 I am still perplexed why he is not on the bench and coming on in the 70th minute each week. Having a quality second striker who can score 15 goals is a luxury only old firms can afford. He had 3 goals in early league cup action 1 Link to comment
TheRedPrawcess Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: Certainly speculating but chances are they could easily find a player that could do as good or better than Ramirez & also be able to play against us. So makes sense to send him & weaken them. Even if (as I think he fears him) he can score a few for them. He cannot do so against us & we could potentially play them 5 times this season Yes they could, but again that's calculated risk. We know Ramirez can score in this league, we've no idea about this other lad. A straight head to head we're probably better with them going for the unknown. You're letting your opinion of Ramirez cloud it as you think he'd weaken them. Many would say his potential 15 goals would strengthen them given that they've lost Boyce for the season. He wouldn't score against us if he was loaned, no. There would be another 29 games where he could help them over us though. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Donscanada said: I am still perplexed why he is not on the bench and coming on in the 70th minute each week. Having a quality second striker who can score 15 goals is a luxury only old firms can afford. He had 3 goals in early league cup action JG didn’t like him trying to get the team to pray before games. JG is God & got really confused by this apparently Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: JG didn’t like him trying to get the team to pray before games. JG is God & got really confused by this apparently Dearie me Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, TheRedPrawcess said: Yes they could, but again that's calculated risk. We know Ramirez can score in this league, we've no odea about this other lad. A straight head to head we're probably better with them going for the unknown. You're letting your opinion of Ramirez cloud it as you think he'd weaken them. Many would say his potential 15 goals would strengthen them given that they've lost Boyce for the season. He wouldn't score against us if he was loaned, no. There would be another 29 games where he could help them over us though. Why should he fear a player he doesn’t want to play in his team though? Surely his own choices to play over him could easily offset a player he doesn’t want to play in another teams games excluding the 4/5 v us? it makes little sense really. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Donscanada said: I am still perplexed why he is not on the bench and coming on in the 70th minute each week. Having a quality second striker who can score 15 goals is a luxury only old firms can afford. He had 3 goals in early league cup action He sees Duk in that role Link to comment
JamieMT Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Time yet, but a failure to replace Bates is an act of negligence. McCrorie should never be the solution to our defensive woes. Moving him into defence in the midst of an injury crisis is fine, needs must. But we should never find ourselves in a position where if Scales or Stewart are injured or suspended (or we're playing Celtic), McCrorie drops into the back four. Hoping Santa drops a CB down the Pittodrie chimney before the night's out. 1 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 He could have gotten a player he doesn’t likes big wage freed up & weakened a rival side by reducing his effect for them by limiting the games he can play. Why’s he scared of that? Link to comment
ERNIE Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, JamieMT said: Time yet, but a failure to replace Bates is an act of negligence. McCrorie should never be the solution to our defensive woes. Moving him into defence in the midst of an injury crisis is fine, needs must. But we should never find ourselves in a position where if Scales or Stewart are injured or suspended (or we're playing Celtic), McCrorie drops into the back four. Hoping Santa drops a CB down the Pittodrie chimney before the night's out. Agreed.. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, JamieMT said: Time yet, but a failure to replace Bates is an act of negligence. McCrorie should never be the solution to our defensive woes. Moving him into defence in the midst of an injury crisis is fine, needs must. But we should never find ourselves in a position where if Scales or Stewart are injured or suspended (or we're playing Celtic), McCrorie drops into the back four. Hoping Santa drops a CB down the Pittodrie chimney before the night's out. JG’s defensive ‘easy fix’ thus far has been just as negligible as Glass imo Link to comment
winchester83 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: Certainly speculating but chances are they could easily find a player that could do as good or better than Ramirez & also be able to play against us. So makes sense to send him & weaken them. Even if (as I think he fears him) he can score a few for them. He cannot do so against us & we could potentially play them 5 times this season Overthinking the possibilties, probably a sign of boredom, excentuated by tame end of window...... so far. Link to comment
Shinniesta Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 minute ago, JamieMT said: Time yet, but a failure to replace Bates is an act of negligence. McCrorie should never be the solution to our defensive woes. Moving him into defence in the midst of an injury crisis is fine, needs must. But we should never find ourselves in a position where if Scales or Stewart are injured or suspended (or we're playing Celtic), McCrorie drops into the back four. Hoping Santa drops a CB down the Pittodrie chimney before the night's out. It's a very risky strategy from JG if we don't sign another defender especially given that Scales is on loan from Celtic who if we beat Partick could end up playing in the LC semi at Hampden. McCrorie is needed in midfield he should only be played in defence in an emergency. As things stand one injury and McCrorie is back in defence. That is a ridiculous state of affairs unless he think MacKenzie can cover as a LCB. 1 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Just now, winchester83 said: Overthinking the possibilties, probably a sign of boredom, excentuated by tame end of window...... so far. Not really. See post a few up ^^^* I fail to see the issues with weakening Hearts by limiting their striking options by a good few games & getting his big wage off books to potentially loan in a player that JG wants to play Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: Why’s he scared of that? 1. Because its clearly become personal between the two of them. Recent form of the player aside. 2. He'd be crucified if Ramirez scored an important goal for Hearts that denied us something. 3. He probably sees McLennan at St Johnstone being a much smaller risk in comparison. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Just now, aberdeen1970 said: 1. Because its clearly become personal between the two of them. Recent form of the player aside. 2. He'd be crucified if Ramirez scored an important goal for Hearts that denied us something. 3. He probably sees McLennan at St Johnstone being a much smaller risk in comparison. But on % of games available alone he’s helping Aberdeen by reducing his overall efficiency & also getting a big wage freed up Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Just now, fine-n-dandy said: But on % of games available alone he’s helping Aberdeen by reducing his overall efficiency & also getting a big wage freed up Aye but he's probably stuck on number 2 Link to comment
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