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[Dons79]

26 minutes ago, BrianFaePerth said:

Flicking through the channels eh saw the hearse    approaching familiar territory.

Disgusted to see the people of Fintry lining the streets. 

Peterhead jail?

[Bluto10]

30 minutes ago, maryhilldon said:

BBC commentator just said  'it's worth reminding ourselves what we're watching here',  after speaking about it for 2 and a half hours non-stop.

2.5 fuckin days more like

[Guest Grays Babylon 1875]

26 minutes ago, CCB III said:

I wish I was 22.

 

I must admit this current predicament has partly broken my brain. 
 

Im gonna need to cool off and take it easy for a while, I feel like an alien in my own country. 
 

There's not a single intellectually sound argument for the monarchy, it's widespread anti intellectualism and it's a fucking concern. 
 

The people of Dundee on the Kingsway paying respects, how many of them are going to struggle this winter? They can't make the connection between their own material conditions and the existence of a monarchy in their own country. 
 

You're right though, I probs need to chillax. 
 

 

Will they not get a share of the 20 million pounds that Queenie brings in?

[NEM]

9 minutes ago, CCB III said:

Dunno what you're LOLING at. 
 

Look at the supposed beacon of impartiality the BBC the last few days. Unrepentant fawning over our great leader. 
 

Even the Guardian, the generally accepted establishment "left" paper, fawning over this nonsense. 
 

The RW nutters say these institutions are "woke" as well!

 

Wouldn't be like a woke news outlet to kiss the feet of colonisers! But we know words mean nothing anymore. 

BBC and the Guardian right wing? You’ve lost it pal ?

[Dr_Manhattan]

6 minutes ago, CCB III said:

They are generally consistent politically. 
 

I just think they ignore certain elements of the Labour movement they are uncomfortable with. 

They're annoyed at the Labour movement because they don't understand that the LP has to at least appear to be electable. Jones is so extreme, even George Galloway has disavowed him FFS.

The UK is not going to vote for a communist government. They can't have what they want, so out of the pram the toys go.

[CCB III]

Just now, NEM said:

BBC and the Guardian right wing? You’ve lost it pal ?

Not saying they are out and out right wing but they certainly aren't anywhere near the left.
 

Left wing media wouldn't be fawning over an unelected monarch, that's just common sense. They also wouldn't besmirch a democratic socialist in Jeremy Corbyn the way they did. The BBC in particular represents the interests of the elite, as you'll see right now if you turn it over. 
 

At best the Guardian is about 2 degree to the left of centre, and the BBC 1 degree to the right of such. 
 

My point was that we have Uber right wing papers in this country, such as the Mail, The Sun, Telegraph etc, but there's not much space for Uber left. Hence why I'm happy to donate to a media outlet that can bring the conversation a different way. 
 

The conversation in our media rarely goes beyond the centre left, but crazy far right political papers like the Daily Mail are among the most popular in the country. It's not a balanced media we have, in my opinion. 
 

You're unlikely to agree, and that's fine. Just how I see it, from my perspective. 

[CCB III]

12 minutes ago, Dr_Manhattan said:

They're annoyed at the Labour movement because they don't understand that the LP has to at least appear to be electable. Jones is so extreme, even George Galloway has disavowed him FFS.

The UK is not going to vote for a communist government. They can't have what they want, so out of the pram the toys go.

I'm pretty radical left and I understand the UK wouldn't vote in a government the way I'd like them to. 
 

I accept that. But, if you can make cohesive arguments for particularly left wing policies, like publicising energy or rail for example, you can bring the conversation over somewhat. 
 

You'll never get exactly what you want in a capitalist democracy but if you stand away at the other end and pull the metaphorical rope, you'll be able to bring some of what you do want into being a reality. 
 

I don't believe these people are revolutionaries. Nor do I believe that of myself. 

If that makes any sense 

 

Starmer has a perfect storm right now for left wing policies he previously backed, like public ownership. 
 

The frustration is he's being advised not to go there for fear of being unelectable, when actually there's a chance he's just leaving the door open for some Tory populist to do it. Setting a serious Labour movement back decades. 

[NEM]

3 minutes ago, Roberto said:

I had to go to Ellon for my groceries, couldn't be arsed going anywhere near the City Centre.

Bunch of wankers/huns clapping that shite. 

Imagine wasting half your Sunday queuing up to clap the corpse of someone who when alive wouldn’t piss on the crowd if they were on fire.

Aff their heeds 

[NEM]

7 minutes ago, CCB III said:

 

At best the Guardian is about 2 degree to the left of centre, and the BBC 1 degree to the right of such. 
 

 

4 minutes ago, CCB III said:

I'm pretty radical left 

Would never have guessed! ?

[CCB III]

All the right wing, virtue signalling hating nationalists are really into virtue signalling when it suits!!!

 

Who'd have thought they were all reactionary hypocrites!??

 

Not this guy!

[Misers Hill]

9 minutes ago, NEM said:

Imagine wasting half your Sunday queuing up to clap the corpse of someone who when alive wouldn’t piss on the crowd if they were on fire.

Aff their heeds 

See she's lying in a state in Edinburgh fir 3 days....Mass influx of hun assured?

[Dr_Manhattan]

8 minutes ago, CCB III said:

I'm pretty radical left and I understand the UK wouldn't vote in a government the way I'd like them to. 
 

I accept that. But, if you can make cohesive arguments for particularly left wing policies, like publicising energy or rail for example, you can bring the conversation over somewhat. 
 

You'll never get exactly what you want in a capitalist democracy but if you stand away at the other end and pull the metaphorical rope, you'll be able to bring some of what you do want into being a reality. 
 

I don't believe these people are revolutionaries. Nor do I believe that of myself. 

If that makes any sense 

 

Starmer has a perfect storm right now for left wing policies he previously backed, like public ownership. 
 

The frustration is he's being advised not to go there for fear of being unelectable, when actually there's a chance he's just leaving the door open for some Tory populist to do it. Setting a serious Labour movement back decades. 

I don't believe putting the government, any government, in charge of more stuff is ever a good idea, so that's where I stand.

Corbyn is a democratic socialist when it suits him. He's also a millionaire, who's never had a payslip that didn't have 'HM Government' stamped on it. That's a big red flag, no pun intended, right there. Free broadband ?

Starmer, well, where to start. A straight, white, middle class former barrister and Knight of The Realm. So progresssive.

All politicians are lying, thieving, opportunist scum. I hate them all, so in that sense I'm more egalitarian than most.

[Schapenneuker]

This is parody beyond belief. A stunning view on how a population can be hypnotised into believing that someone is almost God-like. Burying a Pharoah must have been like this. 

I would like to think that if the Queen herself had been watching this on TV, she would have said 'turn this f*cking pish off and put on Eastenders' ..

[NEM]

14 minutes ago, Dr_Manhattan said:

I don't believe putting the government, any government, in charge of more stuff is ever a good idea, so that's where I stand.

Corbyn is a democratic socialist when it suits him. He's also a millionaire, who's never had a payslip that didn't have 'HM Government' stamped on it. That's a big red flag, no pun intended, right there. Free broadband ?

Starmer, well, where to start. A straight, white, middle class former barrister and Knight of The Realm. So progresssive.

All politicians are lying, thieving, opportunist scum. I hate them all, so in that sense I'm more egalitarian than most.

POTY 

[CCB III]

11 minutes ago, Dr_Manhattan said:

I don't believe putting the government, any government, in charge of more stuff is ever a good idea, so that's where I stand.

Corbyn is a democratic socialist when it suits him. He's also a millionaire, who's never had a payslip that didn't have 'HM Government' stamped on it. That's a big red flag, no pun intended, right there. Free broadband ?

Starmer, well, where to start. A straight, white, middle class former barrister and Knight of The Realm. So progresssive.

All politicians are lying, thieving, opportunist scum. I hate them all, so in that sense I'm more egalitarian than most.

Is Corbyn a millionaire? I think his house was worth millions because of where it is, which actually made his own point about the housing crisis valid, as it certainly wasn't worth that much when he bought it. He's also a strong advocate for taxing the rich, which, if he's a millionaire, would include himself...don't see much issue with that. With regards to every paycheck having a HMG on it, there's not much people can do about that, if you want to be involved in politics. He's a Republican who turned down the invitation to Charles accession. So, I can't abide by the Corbyn slander. You can't criticise people who want to change things in society for participating in it. I don't think fossil fuels are a good thing, and expansion in the North Sea will be bad for the climate, but I stand to keep my employment if this happens. Dialectical materialism never goes away, it's constant. I can have my personal interests and beliefs but we are ultimately drowned by whatever system is imposed from on high with little room for manoeuvre. 
 

Free broadband was a good idea, I thought. Internet access could be argued as a human right in the modern day, and as a socialist, he'd obviously back a state ran publicly owned version of this. 
 

You're spot on re Starmer. The definition of a wolf in sheeps clothing. 
 

Id agree with your last point but remove "all" for "most." 
 

Are you a libertarian? 

[CCB III]

3 minutes ago, NEM said:

POTY 

So you're cool with the market dictating everything, hence the sky rocket of bills this winter? I extend this question to @Dr_Manhattan as well. 
 

We've had small government free market politics for ages now, excluding the pandemic. 
 

What's happened is that the wealth gap has gotten larger, greed is rampant, and ordinary folks are generally worse off. 
 

We need the people with power to be fighting against this, rather than enabling it, as they do now. So, I can't understand this argument for small government when you consider until forced government intervention, we were looking at spending like 15% of our incomes on basic requirements like energy? 
 

Maybe a convo for another time but it seems to be contradictory.

[CCB III]

I'm giving this all way too much brain bandwidth. 
 

Might go play football manager. 
 

Hope you all have a pleasant Sunday x

[Bluto10]

can’t believe you lot care so much about politicians and politcs

you’ll be dead soon

 

 

massive lol

 

 

[For Fecks Sake]

43 minutes ago, CCB III said:

The frustration is he's being advised not to go there for fear of being unelectable, when actually there's a chance he's just leaving the door open for some Tory populist to do it.

Is that not exactly what happened when Labour tried that under Corbyn and look how that turned out.

Can imagine the conversation in Labour HQ, "Right lads, we lost swathes of seats in what had long been considered Labour heart lands due to our decision to nominate a Commie, sorry left wing, leader. What don't we do EXACTLY the same thing for the next election because, you know, I am positive it will work this time around."

[Dr_Manhattan]

10 minutes ago, CCB III said:

Is Corbyn a millionaire? 

Free broadband was a good idea, I thought. Internet access could be argued as a human right in the modern day, and as a socialist, he'd obviously back a state ran publicly owned version of this. 

You're spot on re Starmer. The definition of a wolf in sheeps clothing. 

Id agree with your last point but remove "all" for "most." 

Are you a libertarian? 

Yes, he is a millionaire. He owns, along with his wife, a coffee company that charges £10 a bag to morons whilst paying the bare minimum to the Mexican and Guatemalan labourers who produce it. That's in addition to the £140k salary he commanded whilst LOTO, and an estimated £3m in expenses since he became an MP. His property wealth is straight of the back of the gentrification of Islington.

Free broadband was a horrible idea and a desperate last minute throw of the dice. He probably pissed away the vote of every BT, Virgin Media etc employee right there.

Libertarian is a broad term these days, a bit like 'socialist'. I think I should hear from the government as little as humanly possible if that helps.

 

[maryhilldon]

44 minutes ago, Misers Hill said:

See she's lying in a state in Edinburgh fir 3 days.

Just like AKs brither.

[manboobs109]

1 hour ago, milne_afc said:

It’s been very useful to see certain people confirming to the rest of us that they are to be avoided at all costs.

A good pal of mine, SNP member that goes on indy marches and that has been out with his wife and kids watching that farce.

It's mad how cunts get carried away with this stuff.

[Dr_Manhattan]

20 minutes ago, CCB III said:

So you're cool with the market dictating everything, hence the sky rocket of bills this winter? I extend this question to @Dr_Manhattan as well.

A free market economy is imperfect, but it's preferable to a totalitarian state. It all sounds nice until you hand that level of power to a few individuals. There's something like 60m corpses in Eastern Europe who would attest to that if they could.

I'm deeply suspicious of anyone who attaches themselves to any sort of ideology. It's all a bit cult-like and cringe IMO. Human history shows that a population will only tolerate so much bullshit until the pitchforks get dusted off. 'Twas ever thus.

[Guest Grays Babylon 1875]

52 minutes ago, Misers Hill said:

See she's lying in a state in Edinburgh fir 3 days....

Sounds like @manboobs109in the 90s.

[ericblack4boss]

1 hour ago, Roberto said:

You watched for that length of time MHD? Fuck that.

I switched off when Scottish presenter called Kincardine O Neill, Banchory.

Irked me.

Good to hear booing in Edinburgh to GSTK.

Surely to fuck they would know the difference,. Kincardine o Neil residents would have only one spaniel,  a bit less brylcream on the ancestral quiffs, and probably manual range rovers, minky bastards compared to the proper Deesiders.

[CCB III]

30 minutes ago, For Fecks Sake said:

Is that not exactly what happened when Labour tried that under Corbyn and look how that turned out.

Can imagine the conversation in Labour HQ, "Right lads, we lost swathes of seats in what had long been considered Labour heart lands due to our decision to nominate a Commie, sorry left wing, leader. What don't we do EXACTLY the same thing for the next election because, you know, I am positive it will work this time around."

It depends if you think that's why they lost. 
 

The heartlands were largely lost due to the Brexit stance he was badgered into taking, in my opinion. Many of your traditional Labour voters voted to leave, and they wanted to piss about with another referendum. That was the dagger in the heart. 
 

Much of Corbyns policies actually poll well in those areas. It was Brexit what done it. 

 

 

[For Fecks Sake]

8 minutes ago, CCB III said:

It depends if you think that's why they lost. 
 

The heartlands were largely lost due to the Brexit stance he was badgered into taking, in my opinion. Many of your traditional Labour voters voted to leave, and they wanted to piss about with another referendum. That was the dagger in the heart. 
 

Much of Corbyns policies actually poll well in those areas. It was Brexit what done it. 

 

 

Riiiiiiight that's the reason they voted against Labour..... Brexit..... Why the fuck did Labour not so the smart thing and come out against Brexit as opposed to sending mixed signals and sitting on the fence most of the time?

Same with independence in Scotland, consistently come out saying they are against independence, well look what's happened as a result, 1 fucking MP returned.

Labour is a shit show and has no fucking clue what it stands for anymore.

[For Fecks Sake]

44 minutes ago, Roberto said:

This fake grief ongoing is fucking embarrassing now.

Talking like they knew her personally.

I like how the royal cortege stopped at McDonald's at Forfar, apparently Princess Anne was 'not amused' that they had run out of vanilla milkshakes though.

[CCB III]

1 hour ago, Dr_Manhattan said:

Yes, he is a millionaire. He owns, along with his wife, a coffee company that charges £10 a bag to morons whilst paying the bare minimum to the Mexican and Guatemalan labourers who produce it. That's in addition to the £140k salary he commanded whilst LOTO, and an estimated £3m in expenses since he became an MP. His property wealth is straight of the back of the gentrification of Islington.

Free broadband was a horrible idea and a desperate last minute throw of the dice. He probably pissed away the vote of every BT, Virgin Media etc employee right there.

Libertarian is a broad term these days, a bit like 'socialist'. I think I should hear from the government as little as humanly possible if that helps.

 

£3,000,000 in expenses doesn't mean he's a millionaire FFS, that's expenses claimed over decades of service. He's not an advocate for gentrification...quite the opposite, he's stood on rent eviction pickets many times. You're basically criticising him for having the gall to live in London, where he has no control over the disgusting prices 
 

His wife doesn't own that business, she's a distributor for it. He's a democratic socialist, and wants to tax the rich, his wife and indeed himself, by your assertion, would be included in that. He also does not own the business. 
 

As he's a democratic socialist, and not a straight up socialist, he wouldn't argue, like most socialists, that there isn't ethical consumption under capitalism. 
 

A business his wife represents has little to baring on his political views or vision for the UK. You can argue there's a contradiction, but as you rightly say, show me a politician where there isn't contradiction? If he's a millionaire, he's actually advocating for policies that would go against his interests. Very few of them do that. 
 

Im disillusioned with electoral politics but Corbyn is amongst the most principled we've got, even if I think his time has been and gone. 
 

 

 

 

 

[For Fecks Sake]

1 minute ago, CCB III said:

Tories keep edging right, with little to no criticism, so Labour have to do the same. 

Bullshit.

Labour should have the conviction to stand by the very things that resulted in them being formed in the first place.