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[Fridge]

1 minute ago, Parklife said:

Which of his specific policies did you find "so ridiculously left wing"? 

He was off his fucking nut! Are you serious?

[CCB III]

1 hour ago, Dr_Manhattan said:

That's £3m of living expenses that he didn't have to pay for himself. Undoubtedly some of it was legitimately incurred as part of his job, but we've seen from numerous expense scandals on both sides of the house just what these reptiles get away with claiming for.

Fine, I look forward to him donating the profit from the sale of his house to some worthy cause, because to do otherwise would legitimise the filthy capitalist nature of property ownership.

It's really easy to passionately campaign for something you know full well is never going to happen.

See above.

And lest we forget, he happily accepted £20k in fees to go on Iranian State TV, a regime that is notoriously anti-semitic and anti-LGBT. He of course claims he only did this to challenge the Iranian regime, but we'll have to take his word for that as PressTV had their OFCOM licence revoked in the UK for obvious reasons.

I find it weird that you seem to idolise the man who has done more to damage the PLP than anyone else in recent history.

1.) not all expenses claimed are for living, much are for administrative costs. Just because you claim 3 million in expenses over decades, doesn't mean you have 3 million in the bank. 
 

2.) Again, you're criticising a guy who's a democratic socialist. A socialist in the context of a democratic capitalist society. He's not going to advocate for Mao like reform. That's not his belief system. He doesn't want total and utter redistribution, he wanted to tax rich folk a good deal more, to make the lives of the working class a bit better. He wasn't advocating for storming the properties at Canary Wharf and claiming it for the people, as a socialist might. 
 

3.) That's a cynics viewpoint, and not one I agree with. You think he spent 30 years of his life advocating for wealth redistribution just for lols or political cred? I get you don't like him but come on. That's far fetched, to suggest he didn't even believe his own campaign when he's one of the most consistent politicians in WM? Come on. 
 

4.) He's made some really awful decisions, which were in my opinion, done in earnest. The anti semitic link simply doesn't wash, as he constantly backs the right of the semitic people of Palestine, has organised various things down the years for anti fascists, written letters or whatever highlighting concern about the rise of anti semitism in certain parts of London. It's all a rouse. They took the only morally decent man in the room and made him out to be the enemy. 
 

5.) I certainly did idolise him when I was a bit younger, but now, not so much. Idols are for fools. He tried to bring the PLP back to where it should be, and the charlatans and careerists in charge now prevented that from happening.

 

It's fine though, the free market will go on, and we'll just see what happens. What could go wrong?

 

[Parklife]

12 minutes ago, Fridge said:

He was off his fucking nut! Are you serious?

Am I serious in the question I asked you? Yes. Which of his specific policies did you find "so ridiculously left wing"? 

[elephantstone78]

9 minutes ago, CCB III said:

10.000.000 people did. 
 

He's not even that left wing, that's what's funny. 
 

In other European nations he'd be viewed as relatively moderate, but the British conversation is so far right we don't see it that way. 
 

 

He’s old school labour. Benn & foot labour. 
 

I vehemently disagreed with his parliamentary colleagues criticising him and as for those actively saying they couldn’t vote labour while he was in charge, you have to question their logic. That was a free hit for his opponents. 
 

You don’t have to be better than the almighty, just better than the alternative. 
 

Look at where their principled stance got them. 
 

I will say his Russian apologist stance has made me go off him quite a bit. Started with the Salisbury poisoning incident and his refusal to call them out and now his equivocation over their invasion of a neighbouring democratic country is why people see him as weak. 
You need to pick a side with big decisions and he can’t/won’t do that. 

[Fridge]

4 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Am I serious in the question I asked you? Yes. Which of his specific policies did you find "so ridiculously left wing"? 

Why didn’t anyone vote for him , when a Labour leader that had common sense would have probably won?

[Ke1t]

Just now, Fridge said:

Why didn’t anyone vote for him , when a Labour leader that had common sense would have probably won?

I'm actually interested in this, tbh. 

Was Corbyn particularly Left Wing? 

I don't know his policies, so I genuinely don't know... but I'd be kinda surprised if his politics were much to the Left of Center.

Did he have extreme Left policies?

[Guest milne_afc]

Look at this dirty dog

 

[Fridge]

3 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

I'm actually interested in this, tbh. 

Was Corbyn particularly Left Wing? 

I don't know his policies, so I genuinely don't know... but I'd be kinda surprised if his politics were much to the Left of Center.

Did he have extreme Left policies?

Yes. Pretty much. Fair play to him for sticking to his views but if he wanted to have any chance of getting elected he should have went down the Blair route and try to get a middle ground.

[Fridge]

2 minutes ago, Bad_Mobby said:

The Tory media hoodwinked you (as they do with most plebz) 

Lol. Naebody hoodwinks me.

And for the record I’m nae a Tory.

[CCB III]

18 minutes ago, elephantstone78 said:

He’s old school labour. Benn & foot labour. 
 

I vehemently disagreed with his parliamentary colleagues criticising him and as for those actively saying they couldn’t vote labour while he was in charge, you have to question their logic. That was a free hit for his opponents. 
 

You don’t have to be better than the almighty, just better than the alternative. 
 

Look at where their principled stance got them. 
 

I will say his Russian apologist stance has made me go off him quite a bit. Started with the Salisbury poisoning incident and his refusal to call them out and now his equivocation over their invasion of a neighbouring democratic country is why people see him as weak. 
You need to pick a side with big decisions and he can’t/won’t do that. 

I won't lie I agree with most of that. Their logic though, is as described. They are self preservation careerists, like most MPs. They know sticking their neck on the line against the corporate media to back Corbyn was career suicide, or would at least hinder their prospects.

 

I think you can have a nuanced view on the Russia thing, the invasion wasn't born without context or incident as nothing is, and NATO/EU have some form of accountability, but any sane person has to be condemning the invasion unequivocally and wanting the best outcome for Ukraine, but that might differ opinion to opinion. 
 

I think you can condemn Russia and also accept that we, the west are often the bad guys. 
 

 

[Parklife]

22 minutes ago, Fridge said:

Why didn’t anyone vote for him , when a Labour leader that had common sense would have probably won?

Are you going to answer my question? Or are you unable to? 

[Parklife]

23 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

 

Did he have extreme Left policies?

No. The media convinced a lot of thickos he did though. As you've seen in this thread, these people name a single "extreme left" policy Corbyn's Labour had. 

[Dr_Manhattan]

31 minutes ago, CCB III said:

Just because you claim 3 million in expenses over decades, doesn't mean you have 3 million in the bank

I didn't say that though.

 

33 minutes ago, CCB III said:

You think he spent 30 years of his life advocating for wealth redistribution just for lols or political cred?

Yes

 

33 minutes ago, CCB III said:

The anti semitic link simply doesn't wash

Here he is on Iranian State TV, safe from the prying eyes of the UK public.

34 minutes ago, CCB III said:

Idols are for fools

On that at least we agree

[Fridge]

7 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Are you going to answer my question? Or are you unable to? 

In 2019, after deadlock in Parliament over Brexit, Corbyn endorsed holding a referendum on the withdrawal agreement, with a personal stance of neutrality. In the 2019 general election, Labour's vote share fell to 32%, its lowest since 2015, leading to a net loss of 60 seats and leaving it with 202, its fewest since 1935. Corbyn said he would not lead Labour into the next election, triggering a leadership election in 2020 that was won by Keir Starmer, his Shadow Brexit Secretary. Corbyn was suspended from Labour Party membership in October 2020 after stating antisemitism in the party had been overstated for political reasons. The membership suspension was lifted a month later after Corbyn was issued with a formal warning by a party disciplinary panel, but the Labour leadership declined to restore the whip, denying readmission to the parliamentary party pending an apology and retraction of his comments.

[Fridge]

He produced outrageous politics and openly said he was a socialist. 

[Fridge]

13 minutes ago, Bad_Mobby said:

You buy a Sun and can of coke before work each day, though 

Incorrect. I get my maid to do buy that for me.

 

And a rowie.

[elephantstone78]

23 minutes ago, CCB III said:

I won't lie I agree with most of that. Their logic though, is as described. They are self preservation careerists, like most MPs. They know sticking their neck on the line against the corporate media to back Corbyn was career suicide, or would at least hinder their prospects.

 

I think you can have a nuanced view on the Russia thing, the invasion wasn't born without context or incident as nothing is, and NATO/EU have some form of accountability, but any sane person has to be condemning the invasion unequivocally and wanting the best outcome for Ukraine, but that might differ opinion to opinion. 
 

I think you can condemn Russia and also accept that we, the west are often the bad guys. 
 

 

Enjoy the rest of your Sunday ccb, I’m off to see black kids (band, not children of colour). 
I like the fact you stick to your guns. 

[Parklife]

28 minutes ago, Fridge said:

In 2019, after deadlock in Parliament over Brexit, Corbyn endorsed holding a referendum on the withdrawal agreement, with a personal stance of neutrality. In the 2019 general election, Labour's vote share fell to 32%, its lowest since 2015, leading to a net loss of 60 seats and leaving it with 202, its fewest since 1935. Corbyn said he would not lead Labour into the next election, triggering a leadership election in 2020 that was won by Keir Starmer, his Shadow Brexit Secretary. Corbyn was suspended from Labour Party membership in October 2020 after stating antisemitism in the party had been overstated for political reasons. The membership suspension was lifted a month later after Corbyn was issued with a formal warning by a party disciplinary panel, but the Labour leadership declined to restore the whip, denying readmission to the parliamentary party pending an apology and retraction of his comments.

In what way does that copy and paste answer my question of "which of his specific policies were ridiculously left?" 

 

[sheepcrooky]

1 hour ago, elephantstone78 said:

I agree. 

Would you say that’s happened since the tories took over in 2010?

The last 10 years have had some crazy times. Scottish Independence vote, Brexit vote and subsequent posturing on both sides, Covid and the Russia/Ukraine. 
 

Can’t be arsed getting into the individual aspects of each of those events, but they have been pretty major. These have derailed a lot of the Tory policies and bandwidth in the last 10 years. 
Cameron basically pandered to the masses with Indyref I and Brexit and had to go, May was a wimpy disaster and Johnson got things done, but got ahead of himself and his poncy new wife made him worse. 

[Fridge]

15 minutes ago, Parklife said:

In what way does that copy and paste answer my question of "which of his specific policies were ridiculously left?" 

 

Ok. He isn’t left wing I’ll leave it at that.

[Misers Hill]

3 hours ago, Don Fonte said:

I do hope the bin lorry drivers of Edinburgh are finished their strike and all extremely tired.

??...?

[Parklife]

18 minutes ago, Fridge said:

Ok. He isn’t left wing I’ll leave it at that.

So you can't tell me a single policy that is "so ridiculously left wing". 

I'll leave it at that. 

[Redforever86]

 

3 minutes ago, Parklife said:

So you can't tell me a single policy that is "so ridiculously left wing". 

I'll leave it at that. 

Cunt would be out his depth in the puddle of a melted ice pole. 

[elephantstone78]

57 minutes ago, sheepcrooky said:

The last 10 years have had some crazy times. Scottish Independence vote, Brexit vote and subsequent posturing on both sides, Covid and the Russia/Ukraine. 
 

Can’t be arsed getting into the individual aspects of each of those events, but they have been pretty major. These have derailed a lot of the Tory policies and bandwidth in the last 10 years. 
Cameron basically pandered to the masses with Indyref I and Brexit and had to go, May was a wimpy disaster and Johnson got things done, but got ahead of himself and his poncy new wife made him worse. 

He absolutely didn’t pander to the masses with brexit. The majority of the country didn’t give a shit about eu membership and the polling supports this. 
 

There was a troublesome wing of the Tory party and ukip were becoming more popular and possibly costing them seats, so Cameron gambled on calling a referendum to put it to bed. It went horribly wrong and has cost us (conservatively, no pun intended) tens of billions in lost growth while all the all the arguing went on. Since leaving you can add on tens of billions more. 
 

That’s money for schools, nhs etc all gone cos arseholes got hoodwinked that the eu was some great bogeyman. 
 

I noticed you didn’t really give an answer yes or no. 

[Fridge]

32 minutes ago, Parklife said:

So you can't tell me a single policy that is "so ridiculously left wing". 

I'll leave it at that. 

Parkie I’m nae going to argue with you and get involved in a  massive political debate. That’s not me hiding from proving my point but I just can’t be fucked. My personal opinion and the majority of the electorate was that he was not worthy of being voted for.

 

There must have been a reason for that.

[Poodler]

6 hours ago, For Fecks Sake said:

3 hours ago, Ke1t said:

Good god. Cheers brother Kelt. That’s better left to Fonte n Mobby

 

 

 

Corbz was too radical for the establishment. He was never an anti-Semite, it was just a good smear to get him out of office. He had the power to bring about meaningful change. We won’t get that close to it again. Won’t be allowed. 

[manboobs109]

55 minutes ago, Parklife said:

So you can't tell me a single policy that is "so ridiculously left wing". 

I'll leave it at that. 

He advocated military action against Israel.

[Poodler]

42 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

He advocated military action against Israel.

???

 

 

 

 

 

See the likes of Eugenie etc in the royal family, what do these cunts actually do all day? Do they just sit about in big palaces? Must get boring. If they want a tostie do they make it themselves? 
 

Edit, just looked her up, she works for charitable organisations. That’ll be a turn up once a month gig 

[maryhilldon]

4 hours ago, Ke1t said:

She looks like a Child Catcher.

[Dr_Manhattan]

Beatrice.

Definitely a butterface.

Probably would, even the chubby version if I'm honest.