Millertime Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Just now, JamieMT said: It's not, "how it is". It's your opinion versus my opinion, therefore it can be argued and debated. It can't I'm giving you the answer 1 Link to comment
RabidGiraffe Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 As far as squad stats go, he's got the highest number of assists (7) and the third highest goal tally (5), despite not starting as many games as some. He's also one of the most entertaining footballers in the squad to watch. We'll miss him if he goes. Either we replace him with someone equally as good or Duncan, Benji, and Morris will have to get a shit load better. 1 Link to comment
JamieMT Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, Millertime said: It can't I'm giving you the answer No, you're giving your opinion. It's subjective and can never be definitive. Suggesting otherwise is either an ego trip or a lazy way of shutting the debate down. Link to comment
Millertime Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Just now, JamieMT said: No, you're giving your opinion. It's subjective and can never be definitive. Suggesting otherwise is either an ego trip or a lazy way of shutting the debate down. I told you already, this isn't a debate Night 4 Link to comment
JamieMT Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, Millertime said: I told you already, this isn't a debate Night Haha, loving your drop the mic moment. Night MT. Link to comment
thurso Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Wow if he’s going €3 million is nowhere near enough for him. That would be a terrible deal, especially if Benfica are due a big percentage of the deal. Link to comment
Dandys1983 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 So transfermarkt.com have him valued at €1.8m so double that is normally what players seem to go for alot of the time, don't know why but they do so £3m is about right, I think it's a quick and easy money maker. I think alot in here need to get used to the model we have buy cheap and sell for profit. I also question I'd he would sign a new contract so another reason to take the cash if it is actually offered. Link to comment
Willo flood Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 50 minutes ago, RabidGiraffe said: Benji Who? Link to comment
RabidGiraffe Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 12 minutes ago, Willo flood said: Who? Dutch guy, Vinnie, been spending most of this season at home playing the benji banjo 1 Link to comment
Russell Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Millertime said: The fact he has only "fired on all cylinders" for what, 30% of his games would suggest entirely that he IS a flash in the pan? It suggests his manager is a gype that doesn't play to the strengths of his better players which leads to said players either not playing or being played out of position. The fact that we're talking about only 2-3 million for him after him being player of the year last year is down to the manager and his stubbornness and the board giving him the job in the first place. 4 Link to comment
alscotoz Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, JamieMT said: Last season he took a while to bed in, not at all uncommon for players from abroad regardless of the League they play in. But once he did he was on fire. This season such performances have been sporadic. But again, Miovski aside those who shone last season haven't hit the same heights and i lay the responsibility of that largely at the feet of Barry Robson and his talent stifling tactics. If we're talking flash in the pan, i'd look to Sam Cosgrove. Purple patch either side of which he couldn't hit a barn door and during which we were often left mystified by him hitting the net despite being absolutely rotten. I think that's right. Robson retention maybe making it easier decision to move away. He's shown what he's capable of. Don't think it was a fluke Link to comment
redone Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 8 hours ago, JamieMT said: Duk would be a £250k man on Milne's watch. That would be a realistic value based on his performance this season only. 1 Link to comment
CCB III Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 34 minutes ago, redone said: That would be a realistic value based on his performance this season only. 12 goal involvements and 3 European group stage goals? Link to comment
Zeus Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 World class Should only be sold for a world class premium Link to comment
Oregon Red Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I think we should refuse to sell. Every exceptional talent has off times. And even this season at his lowest he has showed so much . Keep him until summer and play more Link to comment
a don in oz Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3mill euros for him would be peanuts no matter what some of you neeps think. About 1million quid we'd clear? Chump change for a player a decent manager would get absolutely firing. That said, if we were to lose one player this transfer window out of him and Miovski I'd hope for it to be Duk, but here's hoping neither. (Unless someone comes in with crazy money bids for them) 4 Link to comment
HaarDon Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I'd be genuinely quite sad if he goes as he has lots more to offer. 2 1 Link to comment
NEM Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 8 hours ago, RabidGiraffe said: As far as squad stats go, he's got the highest number of assists (7) and the third highest goal tally (5), despite not starting as many games as some. He's also one of the most entertaining footballers in the squad to watch. We'll miss him if he goes. Either we replace him with someone equally as good or Duncan, Benji, and Morris will have to get a shit load better. We’ll replace him with another Pape Gueye. The bean counters will be happy we’ve another million or so in the bank though. Some folk need to be careful what they wish for. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 9 hours ago, 4n4LprObE666 said: It's how we sell a move to a Mioskvi, Ramadani, Duk etc .. we're a shop window / springboard club and it's a good way to make easy money IF we identify the right players. They get to play in full houses at Ibrox and Celtic Park, Hampden, European football.. then move to a bigger club once their profile is raised. Rinse and repeat. Downside is the team is forever 'in transition'. Once it is established it should only be one, maybe 2, player per year. We only sold McCrorie and Ramadani in 2023. Its just a shame we binned off about 15+ players for being utter shit. That would not be a transition and especially if you'd planned for 1-2 years that McCrorie would leave at that point Link to comment
Don_Corleone Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I'll be absolutely gutted if we sell Duk in this window. Most exciting player we've had in years. Some of the things we've seen him do have been incredible. He's been in and out the team this season because of the way Barry's set us up, and he's not been given the chance to play to his capabilities because we've persisted in shelling long, high balls aimlessly forward. Watching him in that St Mirren game you could see how fed up he was getting with it. If he'd been playing against Ross County the other night in that formation and with the style of football we were playing he would have loved it. Amazing that we've been blessed with two of the best strikers we've had in the last 40 years at the same time, and our manager has persisted with playing anti football so that we hardly create any chances for them. 2 Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, a don in oz said: 3mill euros for him would be peanuts no matter what some of you neeps think. About 1million quid we'd clear? Chump change for a player a decent manager would get absolutely firing. That said, if we were to lose one player this transfer window out of him and Miovski I'd hope for it to be Duk, but here's hoping neither. (Unless someone comes in with crazy money bids for them) Plus we only get 50% of any fee Link to comment
Dandys1983 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I totally understand why some think he's worth more, but we have to remember the leagues wank, we did nothing in Europe, I also don't believe he will sign another contract all these are taken into consideration when agreeing a fee and unfortunately if he was that good it wouldn't be a swiss club that was after him, I hope he stays but we have to be realistic unfortunately,I'd rather we sold him now that loose in in 18ms to the ugly sisters for free. 1 Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 9 hours ago, Dons79 said: his contribution this season (goal,assist) doesn’t strike me as horrible is all, looking at his contributions, with his game time under Robson this season smacks as quite good, could be better as we all know who good he really can be, not horrible though. Aye he’s actually been decent. Just below the standards he set last season which we all hoped was just the start. henalso missed ridiculous amount of sitters at the start of the season which didn’t help his confidence 1 Link to comment
Frank Grimes Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 We've turned down the bid apparently so clearly the club value him higher as well. If there are desperate English championship clubs waiting in the wings then let the bidding war commence. Link to comment
Howard Marks Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 In addition to the above, we will only get 50% of the fee, allegedly. I am not sure if this has been mentioned already? 1 Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 8 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: We've turned down the bid apparently so clearly the club value him higher as well. If there are desperate English championship clubs waiting in the wings then let the bidding war commence. Or if you read a different reporter there has been no bid Link to comment
Howard Marks Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 It's quite humbling, truth be told, to be stalked round the forum by the Gluepot of the Year. The reaction to the bait was taken within seconds, that's quite something. Link to comment
Rabiusmaximus Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Has the hidden talent of being able to suck a ball up a garden hose...for that reason alone he should be kept 1 Link to comment
Reed or deed Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 18 minutes ago, Howard Marks said: In addition to the above, we will only get 50% of the fee, allegedly. I am not sure if this has been mentioned already? Do you not have the simple capacity to be able to read back a couple of pages before you post such inane drivel like? Link to comment
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