Flares In Football - For Or Against?

[Leon_Mike]

For.

[stand_free]

For.

 

For.

 

Only get f**ked off at the fact that we were fined for having them at games in the past yet the Old Firm have smoke bombs etc. all the time. Bit of danger having them in confined roof spaces like the shed last year!

[minijc]

They are dangerous and if set off in the wrong area of the ground especially up here in the mian stand would burn the place down.

[Leon_Mike]

They are dangerous and if set off in the wrong area of the ground especially up here in the mian stand would burn the place down.

 

How come the rickety old stadiums in Poland or Eastern Europe in general haven't burned to the ground with flares ever? Anyhow, get them set off in the South Stand then, problem solved.

 

You for or against?

[minkyjc]

How come the rickety old stadiums in Poland or Eastern Europe in general haven't burned to the ground with flares ever? Anyhow, get them set off in the South Stand then, problem solved.

 

You for or against?

 

 

 

for

 

poland is great for football,

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6T0dA_WU7s&feature=related

[minijc]

I am against, it's not the British way, our footballing culture is not the same as it is in Poland, Italy or Ukraine and it never ever will be no matter what some jumped up guys with agendas try to do.

[tutankamun]

Always for a bit of flares.

 

Never thought I'd see them ever again after the 70's but then along came the Stone Roses

[Leon_Mike]

I am against, it's not the British way, our footballing culture is not the same as it is in Poland, Italy or Ukraine

 

You're probably right, and we're so so much worse off for it.

[minijc]

You're absolutely right, and we're so so much worse off for it.

How so? Would you rather our club, FA, police and stewarding was all corrupt like it is in Italy?

[Leon_Mike]

How so? Would you rather our club, FA, police and stewarding was all corrupt like it is in Italy?

 

Absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

 

We've got flares here where I am and I wouldn't class our government as being corrupt.

[pullman_du]

don't see what they add to the match day experience but I'm not against them. if you must introduce fireworks I'd prefer bombe carte, noise loud enough to create shock and awe is where it's at :thumbs:

[Leon_Mike]

don't see what they add to the match day experience but I'm not against them. if you must introduce fireworks I'd prefer bombe carte, noise loud enough to create shock and awe is where it's at :thumbs:

 

Aye I'm all for that too min.

[pullman_du]

How so? Would you rather our club, FA, police and stewarding was all corrupt like it is in Italy?

 

What you on about now ? I've got a mate currently serving a jail term in Italy for letting off flares inside a stadium. They're stricter than the UK with that sort of thing these days.

[RUL]

Major for!

 

 

[Leon_Mike]

What you on about now ? I've got a mate currently serving a jail term in Italy for letting off flares inside a stadium. They're stricter than the UK with that sort of thing these days.

 

Safe to maybe say mini doesn't know exactly the point he's trying to make.

 

Nae harm done like, sometimes difficult for some folk to get a point across. I presume that's what's happened here anyway.

[minijc]

What you on about now ? I've got a mate currently serving a jail term in Italy for letting off flares inside a stadium. They're stricter than the UK with that sort of thing these days.

I was more meaning the club, it's more or less Ultras, proper Ultras over in these places that have a say in most things, I didn't realise how strict Italy had became, although I seem to remember a few games a couple of season back where a lot of teams fans were avoiding away days.

 

No sympathy for your mate though, his own fault.

[Leon_Mike]

No sympathy for your mate though, his own fault.

 

Jail time for waving a flare? Are you mental?!

[minijc]

Jail time for waving a flare? Are you mental?!

Could have caused a death.

[minkyjc]

So by that logic we lock up all car drivers?

 

Suits me being a vegan cyclist.

[boboisared]

Against. Pointless at a game of football and don't see how they add to the atmosphere at all.

 

Each to their own like.

[minkyjc]

I am against, it's not the British way, our footballing culture is not the same as it is in Poland, Italy or Ukraine and it never ever will be no matter what some jumped up guys with agendas try to do.

 

 

Again with the agendas,

 

What are these agendas you speak of?

 

Who are these guys?

[Foster14]

I go to the football to watch a game. What a smoke bomb or flare does in the crowd to enhance that, I do not know...

[boboisared]

I go to the football to watch a game. What a smoke bomb or flare does in the crowd to enhance that, I do not know...

Yip.

[vanderark14]

don't see what they add to the match day experience but I'm not against them. if you must introduce fireworks I'd prefer bombe carte, noise loud enough to create shock and awe is where it's at :thumbs:

 

this mirrors my opinion.

[Bamber]

How come the rickety old stadiums in Poland or Eastern Europe in general haven't burned to the ground with flares ever? Anyhow, get them set off in the South Stand then, problem solved.

 

You for or against?

 

 

 

You're obviously too young to remember bradford then or have had to watch it during a fire awareness presentation, might i suggest you search for the footage

 

 

Do you know for certain the medical history of everyone in the crowd? from having a grandmother who was a severe asthmatic (and an attack was probably what eventually killed her), a brother who suffers from it now he is older and a neice who may in the future, i wonder what affect a smoke bomb would have on either of those two of my living family

 

 

any sort of incendary device or smoke producing device has no place anywhere there could be crowd's dont care if its football or not - to introduce flames and smoke into a crowd of people is one of the most stupid and ignorant things a person could do

[tup]

I prefer jeans but each to their own, I draw the line at bellbottoms.

[pullman_du]

I was more meaning the club, it's more or less Ultras, proper Ultras over in these places that have a say in most things, I didn't realise how strict Italy had became, although I seem to remember a few games a couple of season back where a lot of teams fans were avoiding away days.

 

No sympathy for your mate though, his own fault.

 

nah, the ultras have zero influence with the clubs. the clubs dislike them, largely because of the power they used to hold. however the ultras are all but finished in italy. they've been brought to their knees by draconian laws and over the top punishments.

 

as for my mate. he broke the law, he got punished. that's the way it goes.

[pullman_du]

See Lazio v Roma for reference, more of them set off in that game alone than any other game in Italy.

 

It's just tremendous!

 

FORZA LAZIO!

 

nae sure, I've never counted but I've been to a lazio v roma in the curva nord and there was a fair few went off right enough. even more so outside in the streets hours before the game. most I've ever encountered though was at a napoli v Verona. they were raining down on us almost non-stop. madness.

[woohoo]

You're obviously too young to remember bradford then or have had to watch it during a fire awareness presentation, might i suggest you search for the footage

 

 

Not sure if it was caused by a flare, but terrifying footage nonetheless.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11UP99uHMuI

[pullman_du]

old wooden stands, certainly wasn't a flare. think it was either faulty wiring or a cigarette that was blamed. in modern stadia there's zilch chance of that being caused by a flare.