VAR in the SPFL

[starryfish]

1 hour ago, Millertime said:

It wasn't a handball 

Must have been imagining it then 

[Daisy1903]

1 hour ago, englishred said:

Great post , this is exactly the problem , we are so backwards its unreal.  We don't even have goal line tech either most other leagues had this years ago.  When you hear stuff like this is it any wonder we are so far behind on a footballing front.   We could do with a new Chief Ex who could come in with a forward thinking and productive ideas rather than Doncaster and his bullshit about meaningless games and backing down to sky for 4 of games a season.  

It's not the problem. We don't need 24 cameras to see the fuck ups the officials are making every week. The Curtis Main one really is abysmal, there's absolutely no excuse.

Considine is a definite handball but at least you could (if you've got a brass neck) say he was being fouled

[Millertime]

40 minutes ago, starryfish said:

Must have been imagining it then 

Nah you just got it wrong 

[starryfish]

34 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Nah you just got it wrong 

What was it that we all seen then? Just an optical illusion?

[fine-n-dandy]

All these ‘handball’ penalties at the weekend were ridiculous. 
Had ex ref on bbc VAR judgement opinions thing saying they were all correct decisions going by the rules & that we all need to accept these are the rules & change how we view VAR. even if it bounces off your knee etc. onto your hand it’s basically a penalty now.

 

Wonder how the cunt would view all the handballs Sevco have gotten away with under these rules? Must be about half a dozen ffs. 

[WesthillWanderersFC]

5 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

All these ‘handball’ penalties at the weekend were ridiculous. 
Had ex ref on bbc VAR judgement opinions thing saying they were all correct decisions going by the rules & that we all need to accept these are the rules & change how we view VAR. even if it bounces off your knee etc. onto your hand it’s basically a penalty now.

 

Wonder how the cunt would view all the handballs Sevco have gotten away with under these rules? Must be about half a dozen ffs. 

It was Stuart Dougal.

A hun season ticket holder & ex-ref

He’s a cheerleader for the referees.  

He’ll always weasel his way in to some pathetic excuse to stick up for the referee & SFA. 

Utterly pointless programme as there’s never anything contrary against the referees. 

[fine-n-dandy]

18 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

It was Stuart Dougal.

A hun season ticket holder & ex-ref

He’s a cheerleader for the referees.  

He’ll always weasel his way in to some pathetic excuse to stick up for the referee & SFA. 

Utterly pointless programme as there’s never anything contrary against the referees. 

Would like to have heard his opinions on the numerous clear handballs the Huns have escaped this season. Pretty sure I’m not exaggerating in saying they have had at least half a dozen 

[Fridge]

6 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Would like to have heard his opinions on the numerous clear handballs the Huns have escaped this season. Pretty sure I’m not exaggerating in saying they have had at least half a dozen 

Correct. It is a fucking farce the whole VAR thing in the first place but I called it that the Huns would definitely benefit. Corrupt as fuck.

[Hoofball]

52 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

It was Stuart Dougal.

A hun season ticket holder & ex-ref

He’s a cheerleader for the referees.  

He’ll always weasel his way in to some pathetic excuse to stick up for the referee & SFA. 

Utterly pointless programme as there’s never anything contrary against the referees. 

The fucking cunt had the brass neck to say Mains dive to win a penalty against Dundee Utd was the correct decision.

 

That was the only time I’ve seen that programme and it will also be the last

[Ke1t]

Here's the thing, if VAR is being flouted by the authorities to benefit the cheeks then it's up to the clubs to demand independent adjudicators who aren't part of what we know to be a corrupt apparatus. 

But they don't. Same way they say not a fucking word about clearly corrupt referees. 

Because they're nutless. 

Our clubs get what they deserve. 

[WesthillWanderersFC]

11 minutes ago, Hoofball said:

The fucking cunt had the brass neck to say Mains dive to win a penalty against Dundee Utd was the correct decision.

 

That was the only time I’ve seen that programme and it will also be the last

Aye, he’s an absolute balloon of the highest order. 

 

[strachanmcgheegoal]

The one I had the biggest problem with was the handball by Livingston against St Mirren.  Yes the Livvie boys hands are up (cue Stuart Dougal - correct decision blah blah) but so too are Curtis Main’s.  I’d venture further and say if the defender doesn’t raise his arms he’s getting Curtis’ elbow off his napper.  
 

Seemed harsh is all I’m saying.

[RabidGiraffe]

The current handball rules are a farce.  It's been a mess all season and during the World Cup.

The new rules are supposed to remove ambiguity because the concept of "deliberate handball" is subjective, but now even the most obvious ball-to-hand incidents are being given as penalties which probably wouldn't even be given as a foul if it happened in the middle of the pitch.  There's still an element of subjectivity with all the "unnatural arm  position" nonsense.  Just put it back the way it was.  Fuck knows how amateur games or even kids in the park are supposed to know what the rules are these days.

Would love to know what the table would look like/how many penalty goals would be chalked off this season if the old rules were applied.

[HaarDon]

On 3/20/2023 at 6:04 AM, englishred said:

Great post , this is exactly the problem , we are so backwards its unreal.  We don't even have goal line tech either most other leagues had this years ago.  When you hear stuff like this is it any wonder we are so far behind on a footballing front.   We could do with a new Chief Ex who could come in with a forward thinking and productive ideas rather than Doncaster and his bullshit about meaningless games and backing down to sky for 4 of games a season.  

We are a backward country in many ways, not just football.

Quite sad really considering how inventive we were.

 

[sheepcrooky]

6 hours ago, RabidGiraffe said:

The current handball rules are a farce.  It's been a mess all season and during the World Cup.

The new rules are supposed to remove ambiguity because the concept of "deliberate handball" is subjective, but now even the most obvious ball-to-hand incidents are being given as penalties which probably wouldn't even be given as a foul if it happened in the middle of the pitch.  There's still an element of subjectivity with all the "unnatural arm  position" nonsense.  Just put it back the way it was.  Fuck knows how amateur games or even kids in the park are supposed to know what the rules are these days.

Would love to know what the table would look like/how many penalty goals would be chalked off this season if the old rules were applied.

It’s the handball rule i dislike the most. Almost impossible to jump with your hand by your sides. It’s not just Scotland though. The penalty award for England v Italy a couple of weeks ago was pish; the ball hardly deviated. 
I suppose it takes away the ambiguity if it is a penalty for handball (unless you’re Connor Goldson). But it’s a shit rule. 

[BaaBaaRedSheep]

11 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

It was Stuart Dougal.

A hun season ticket holder & ex-ref

He’s a cheerleader for the referees.  

He’ll always weasel his way in to some pathetic excuse to stick up for the referee & SFA. 

Utterly pointless programme as there’s never anything contrary against the referees. 

First, and last, time I've watched this garbage. 

Dougal was an embarrassing apologist for Huns with whistles and, for fucks sake, why does Lamont get on the box with that ridiculous effort of a hair bun?

BBC Scotland Sport is a truly humongous waste of time. 

[Roberto]

https://news.stv.tv/sport/andy-walker-says-var-officials-interfered-to-give-ref-easy-way-out-of-decision

 

[englishred]

17 hours ago, Roberto said:

https://news.stv.tv/sport/andy-walker-says-var-officials-interfered-to-give-ref-easy-way-out-of-decision

 

Just read another article saying the SFA might take away sky's right to listen in on VAR.  The whole thing sounds more and more corrupt by the minute.  Next things they'll be saying "give offside against non old firm team to keep title race alive"

[DD1903]

8 hours ago, englishred said:

Just read another article saying the SFA might take away sky's right to listen in on VAR.  The whole thing sounds more and more corrupt by the minute.  Next things they'll be saying "give offside against non old firm team to keep title race alive"

That would impact everyone, as the old firm don't exist. 

[Millertime]

Wow

Outrageously wrong VAR there chopping off Morelos goal, absolutely criminal 

[Dom Sullivan]

2 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Wow

Outrageously wrong VAR there chopping off Morelos goal, absolutely criminal 

The fat cunt was on the pitch ergo right decision - offside 😂

[shut up meg]

3 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Wow

Outrageously wrong VAR there chopping off Morelos goal, absolutely criminal 

Aye, I agree.

Still, after all the shit that Goldson alone has got away with this season, surely this is karma.

[Millertime]

1 minute ago, shut up meg said:

Aye, I agree.

Still, after all the shit that Goldson alone has got away with this season, surely this is karma.

Yeah I knew that kind of answer would come, it's a pointless thing to say

People going on about them having refs in their pocket, clearly not

 

[fine-n-dandy]

3 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Yeah I knew that kind of answer would come, it's a pointless thing to say

People going on about them having refs in their pocket, clearly not

 

They both do but clearly Celtic bid highest this week

[shut up meg]

1 minute ago, Millertime said:

Yeah I knew that kind of answer would come, it's a pointless thing to say

People going on about them having refs in their pocket, clearly not

 

Chin up M(XX-XII), its only 1-0.

[Parklife]

14 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Wow

Outrageously wrong VAR there chopping off Morelos goal, absolutely criminal 

He blatantly pushes the defender 😂

[shut up meg]

2 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

They both do but clearly Celtic bid highest this week

It's their turn to have the ref (Clancy).

Tradition FnD, tradition.

[shut up meg]

Just now, Parklife said:

He blatantly pushes the defender 😂

I would be unhappy if that was called as a foul on a dons player however they were both at it and Johnstone had a hold of fatboys shirt before the push.

[Parklife]

6 minutes ago, shut up meg said:

I would be unhappy if that was called as a foul on a dons player however they were both at it and Johnstone had a hold of fatboys shirt before the push.

All irrelevant to the fact that Morelos committed a clear foul. 

[muttonhumper]

Pffffttttt. 

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12932952/var-in-scotland-what-has-changed-for-the-new-scottish-premiership-season