Big Hat Logan Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Poodler said: They’ll easy beat Ajax and Napoli at home liverpool aren’t the same beast now either (thankfully) Won’t be watching any of it anyway. Hope they get some serious violence in Italy - women and children attacked. Lovely Are you not meant be in Australia with another of your “friends” from the internet? Link to comment
Millertime Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Sooper-hanz said: I I wondered if bottom might go into that europa conference approved league for special teams? The one we got put out of , aye? Link to comment
DelMonte Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 4 hours ago, zeroisgod76 said: We can but hope… they ‘should’ finish bottom of that group but you never know with that jammy cunts. Maybe but likes of Napoli are no where near as good as they were. Italian league is pretty crap nowadays, it’s a bit of a farce they get 4 spots to be honest. Link to comment
Poodler Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Big Hat Logan said: Are you not meant be in Australia with another of your “friends” from the internet? Aren’t you meant to be a parent? Frightening Link to comment
HaarDon Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Think you're all getting way too obsessed with what's going to happen with them. Who gives a fuck? It doesn't change who we are and what we need to do. Get a top 3, win a cup, get further in Europe and sometimes beat Celtic or sevco in the league. 1 3 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 7 hours ago, The Cockney Don said: There'll be a few on here reluctantly wanting Liverpool to beat them. Wtf is this reluctancy shite you speak of? Link to comment
Lan_Lad Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 13 hours ago, zeroisgod76 said: Its hardly bed wetting... last season they played 19 European games and still finished 28 points ahead of 3rd place in the league and 48 points ahead of us. If you think thats suddenly going to change this season then you're deluded. Yes we can maybe show them they've been in a game but in the grand scheme of things its going to make fuck all difference. Same old same old isn't it, they're not Real Madrid. Thing is in Scotland they and the other half are pretty much the equivalent. I think they always know they're in a game no matter who they play, but that doesn't change anything. Link to comment
Lan_Lad Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Ten Caat said: I think they'll win 2 of their home games from that lot. Ajax will be one of their home wins And possibly draw one away I think they're actually better in Europe than domestically. In Scotland they typically face a parked bus and sometimes struggle to break it down. While in Europe it's far more open and that appears to suit them. And incidentally the parked bus strategy is fair enough as far as i'm concerned. It can work, the "have a go" thing is naïve and looking for a humiliating hiding which is why no one really does it. Link to comment
Millertime Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Sooper-hanz said: When was this ? Glass' first season? With Cormack heralding it as the furthest we had ever progressed! Link to comment
bruceg1978 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 I see this game in 2 weeks time is still scheduled for 3pm on the Saturday. I'm assuming this will change to a lunch time kick off for TV. Trying to remember the last time we played them at home on a Saturday with a 3pm KO Link to comment
zeroisgod76 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 9 hours ago, DelMonte said: Maybe but likes of Napoli are no where near as good as they were. Italian league is pretty crap nowadays, it’s a bit of a farce they get 4 spots to be honest. The 'Champions' League in general is a farce. It wont be long until certain 'big' clubs are guaranteed entry no matter where they finish in their leagues. Its all about the money and the rich get richer. Maybe its just wishful thinking, but i'd love nothing more than them to lose all 6 games. Link to comment
Millertime Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Sooper-hanz said: So, what’s your point? At this point, I'm actually not sure Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Sadly us getting further away from them has been our own doing the last few seasons. We just need to concentrate on ourselves instead of greeting about them doing well in europe. Finishing 3rd for a few seasons will bring in a hell of a lot more money if we can get there. Then we can win the treble 3 Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 20 hours ago, Helmet said: The clubs need to invite independent scrutiny on thier league, the whole thing structure, governance, commercial activities, personnel, nothing off the table, This review needs to be carried out promptly and results made public, along with progress reports, Fans and stakeholders should be allowed to input and have a say in the actions following the review, This won't happen so the status quo will go on and on and on etc. Link to comment
Helmet Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: Sadly us getting further away from them has been our own doing the last few seasons. We just need to concentrate on ourselves instead of greeting about them doing well in europe. Finishing 3rd for a few seasons will bring in a hell of a lot more money if we can get there. Then we can win the treble No reason that the clubs can't question the utter lack of competition over the long term in our national sport to drive an agenda for change as well as taking care of business properly day to day. Link to comment
Millertime Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said: ? Haha! Eejit 1 Link to comment
The Boofon Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 18 hours ago, Zeus said: Hun fans Battered a'over the shop in Amsterdam and Naples Terrific. Surely a few deaths when the murderers come up to play them too. Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Helmet said: No reason that the clubs can't question the utter lack of competition over the long term in our national sport to drive an agenda for change as well as taking care of business properly day to day. The problem is every other league is just the same now. We have had that imbalance way before it was cool Link to comment
JojoJuan Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Sadly the vast sums of money now involved have ruined football as a competition. It is no longer about the average fan, hasn't been for a while. Link to comment
Millertime Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, JojoJuan said: Sadly the vast sums of money now involved have ruined football as a competition. It is no longer about the average fan, hasn't been for a while. This is such a boring thing to say How do you think Motherwell fans feel about us getting 4.5m for ramsay? Link to comment
don corleone Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Millertime said: This is such a boring thing to say How do you think Motherwell fans feel about us getting 4.5m for ramsay? I doubt that they gave even the smallest of fucks, much the same as Aberdeen fans when Motherwell received 2.7m for David turnbull. 2 Link to comment
JojoJuan Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, Millertime said: This is such a boring thing to say How do you think Motherwell fans feel about us getting 4.5m for ramsay? So you are excited by the current state of football then? You think that all teams having less money and being on a more level playing field, with more teams from more countries in with a chance of winning big European games, like the 70s and 80s before money went mad is boring? You are excited by players earning 400k a week and competitions being played out between Oligarchs, Big Business and in some cases countries themselves? OK then, we disagree Link to comment
Millertime Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, don corleone said: I doubt that they gave even the smallest of fucks, much the same as Aberdeen fans when Motherwell received 2.7m for David turnbull. Aye? Link to comment
Millertime Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, JojoJuan said: So you are excited by the current state of football then? You think that all teams having less money and being on a more level playing field, with more teams from more countries in with a chance of winning big European games, like the 70s and 80s before money went mad is boring? You are excited by players earning 400k a week and competitions being played out between Oligarchs, Big Business and in some cases countries themselves? OK then, we disagree All teams don't have less money Hearts are going to get c£3m more this season than they got last season ( c5 months of their wagebill) Know why they're getting that? They done well last season See how that works? Link to comment
JojoJuan Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Millertime said: All teams don't have less money Hearts are going to get c£3m more this season than they got last season ( c5 months of their wagebill) Know why they're getting that? They done well last season See how that works? I didn't say any teams have less money now, I suggested that football was a better compensation when all trams had less money. All teams do have more money, but the gaps between the rich and the rest have grown too big, so the smaller teams are comparatively poorer than they have ever been. This disparity is bad for competition. The money Hearts are getting from a better performance or we got for selling players is a relative pittance compared to the operating budgets of the Glasgow teams even without their winnings. That in turn is nothing to a Man City or a PSG. Football in my opinion was better before some teams ended up with stratospheric budgets and became almost untouchable. Link to comment
don corleone Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Millertime said: Aye? Aye! Link to comment
Millertime Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 hours ago, JojoJuan said: I didn't say any teams have less money now, I suggested that football was a better compensation when all trams had less money. All teams do have more money, but the gaps between the rich and the rest have grown too big, so the smaller teams are comparatively poorer than they have ever been. This disparity is bad for competition. The money Hearts are getting from a better performance or we got for selling players is a relative pittance compared to the operating budgets of the Glasgow teams even without their winnings. That in turn is nothing to a Man City or a PSG. Football in my opinion was better before some teams ended up with stratospheric budgets and became almost untouchable. Yeah and dumbartons turnover is nothing to ours It's the way it works If dumbarton do better, they can get to our level If we do better, we can get to the Glasgow 2s level "Rangers" had no right to get to the Europa final, but they did Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Millertime said: Yeah and dumbartons turnover is nothing to ours It's the way it works If dumbarton do better, they can get to our level If we do better, we can get to the Glasgow 2s level "Rangers" had no right to get to the Europa final, but they did They had every right as they are operating on similar budgets to a lot of the teams that get to Europa finals. Maybe they aren’t the biggest budgets but they are certainly up there with many. Sevco & Celtic reaching the latter stages/final of Europa cup now & again is no more surprising/unrealistic than smaller Scottish sides reaching domestic finals now and again Link to comment
Itsagoal Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 I don’t know whether Millertime is constantly on the wind up or is just stupid or maybe a bit of both. with the mad European tournament money, you could almost equate the SPFL, to a 50 metre dash. Rangers and Celtic, you can start on the 40 metre line. Hearts, you can start on the 5 five metre line. The rest of you, get back to the zero metres starting line. ‘oh you lot back there, you say that’s not fair, well you’d better try harder next season”- as if that’s going to make one iota of difference as to who is going to win the race. It’s going to be one of those two who start at the 40 metre line, and season after season, repeat, repeat, repeat. 3 Link to comment
Millertime Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 28 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: They had every right as they are operating on similar budgets to a lot of the teams that get to Europa finals. Maybe they aren’t the biggest budgets but they are certainly up there with many. Sevco & Celtic reaching the latter stages/final of Europa cup now & again is no more surprising/unrealistic than smaller Scottish sides reaching domestic finals now and again Really? You tnink their budget was "up there" with dortmunds, for example? Or PSVs? Link to comment
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