ullevi Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, King Street Loon said: Most clubs don't have CEO's or DoF that are visible. They just get on with their work with no fuss. I don't know why Aberdeen fans in particular are so obsessed and get hard ons with 'Transparency' and the DoF, CEO and Chairman being so present and vocal. Life was simpler before they started trying to reach out to fans. Just encourages the zoomers in our support to be even more unhinged than they already are. What is it that people want Burrows to say? would be pointless for him to say anything and they arent going to tell you anything about players we have approached and been knocked back by either.. Some people need to get a life beyond the football club and stop obsessing over everything 1 Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Hi everybody. I hope this finds you safe and it finds you well. Link to comment
dave_min Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, Studebaker-90 said: Hi everybody. I hope this finds you safe and it finds you well. Kind Regards, Baker, Stude B.Sc S.Sc Link to comment
starryfish Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said: We also lost our commercial director last summer who seemed to be a sensible head amongst a crowd of idiots. I assume his role was absorbed into Burrows' role but still another decent person lost to the business Think Robbie Hedderman now in that role Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: My guess is Alan Burrows may leave in the summer. Not ITK, purely a hunch Another c**t well out of his depth 2 1 Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 hours ago, The Hulk said: That just isn't true at all. But let's for the sake of your point say that it is. How do you mitigate against that? You put together a structure in the club. You appoint a Director of Football/Sporting Director to oversee everything from first team down to development teams. The DoF implements a strategy that in turn engenders a clear philosophy that is bought into from top to bottom, an "Aberdeen Way" if you will. If the club has an identity then it makes the football operation easier to monitor. You put together a recruitment team in charge of talent identification for players that fit the identity & philosophy of the club in order the manager or head coach's job is quite easy to integrate players of said identity/style into the team. If and when those players don't perform then you can analyse what went wrong as opposed to leaving the recruitment to the manager in choosing players that don't fit any clear philosophy, or at least not the club's one. If the head of recruitment is being undermined in their job by a single-minded coach then something is wrong. You ensure an analysis team is in place which can give good information to the coaching team. If the coaching team rip up that analysis then that's either down to the coach's single-mindedness or the appointed analysts having poor ability to carry out their jobs effectively; putting their appointments into question. You appoint a Chief Executive who will oversee day to day operations and take efficient decisions the important issues like ensuring ticketing strategies go smoothly or fronting up difficult decisions such as relieving a manager of his duties. I am sure all of this will be familiar. The individual that insisted on the structure has to take ultimate responsibility for the people they place into that structure. People of questionable ability have been put in place in all of these positions. For all of Cormack's charisma, business acumen, and clear and obvious love for his & our club, he is clearly a poor judge of ability when it comes to what it takes to run a football club of this magnitude. Ok Judge Reiner. Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 hours ago, a don in oz said: Of course. He at the very least signs off on the appointments but a manager is a lottery no matter who it is. Anyone think that Mourinho or Klopp would do well for us? We'll just have to see whoever it is he gets in, if they can hack it unlike the last 3 and - checking - 7 of the previous 10 before that. Good: God for 2 seasons Calderwood. Ish McInnes for a handful of seasons Dogshit: Aitken Alex Fucking Miller Hegarty Skovdahl (even if he had a helluva personality) Paterson Y'know Mark y'know McGhee Brown (though he's not diarrhoea because he at least steadied the ship) Harsh on Brown. Inherited a total mess which, for the most part, he cleaned up and laid the foundations for McInnes success Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 The brother and sister analysts also away. Nae much staff left. Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, milne_afc said: Heard he was caught making love to her asshole. Both dismissed instantly. They were a pair of anal-ysts Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, dave_min said: Kind Regards, Baker, Stude B.Sc S.Sc Philanthropist Link to comment
eeps Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, Redmist1903 said: They were a pair of anal-ysts Any connection to Mcrorie's infamous anal-cysts? 1 Link to comment
zeroisgod76 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 hours ago, King Street Loon said: Most clubs don't have CEO's or DoF that are visible. They just get on with their work with no fuss. I don't know why Aberdeen fans in particular are so obsessed and get hard ons with 'Transparency' and the DoF, CEO and Chairman being so present and vocal. Life was simpler before they started trying to reach out to fans. Just encourages the zoomers in our support to be even more unhinged than they already are. I don't think anyone would care how transparent the CEO and Chairman were if it wasn't for the fact they are never off social media taking all the plaudits when things are going well but then go completely AWOL for months when we're in the shit. Either be transparent through the good and bad times or just don't say anything at all ever. Personally i'd much rather they just got on with doing a good job and making the club a success, but the truth is they only have themselves to blame for any criticism they now get for lack of transparency. 1 Link to comment
brownie Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Where is the CEO in all this? He's meant to be running the entire club day to day. Link to comment
slippers Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 29 minutes ago, dazzy_deff said: The brother and sister analysts also away. Nae much staff left. Pretty sure they have been replaced by Marc Rochon? Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, slippers said: Pretty sure they have been replaced by Marc Rochon? i believe he is getting involved aye Link to comment
Russell Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, slippers said: Pretty sure they have been replaced by Marc Rochon? Lol, never heard of him, Google, first headline: "Croatia's secret weapon - the Rangers fan from Scotland bidding to reach another World Cup final" Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 11 minutes ago, brownie said: Where is the CEO in all this? He's meant to be running the entire club day to day. Where is he? He's at work running the entire club day to day. 5 Link to comment
dave_min Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 37 minutes ago, Studebaker-90 said: Philanthropist You know she said no. Link to comment
True_Don Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Can't see this this anywhere else but Cormack has brought in consultants to reveiw the entire football operation. Willie Miller saying its a concern and shows flaws with the current management team. Likely an intrustment to make personnel changes and would seem Cormack has realised the current Directors aren't up to it. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 hours ago, True_Don said: Can't see this this anywhere else but Cormack has brought in consultants to reveiw the entire football operation. Willie Miller saying its a concern and shows flaws with the current management team. Likely an intrustment to make personnel changes and would seem Cormack has realised the current Directors aren't up to it. Very insightful from WM 🤣 Link to comment
Dynamo Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 3 hours ago, True_Don said: Can't see this this anywhere else but Cormack has brought in consultants to reveiw the entire football operation. Willie Miller saying its a concern and shows flaws with the current management team. Likely an intrustment to make personnel changes and would seem Cormack has realised the current Directors aren't up to it. Cormack could have saved himself (or the club rather) and hired a Hat delegation to tell him what's wrong. Link to comment
G man Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 On 2/2/2024 at 2:19 PM, zeroisgod76 said: I don't think anyone would care how transparent the CEO and Chairman were if it wasn't for the fact they are never off social media taking all the plaudits when things are going well but then go completely AWOL for months when we're in the shit. Either be transparent through the good and bad times or just don't say anything at all ever. Personally i'd much rather they just got on with doing a good job and making the club a success, but the truth is they only have themselves to blame for any criticism they now get for lack of transparency. Totally agree 1 Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 4 hours ago, True_Don said: Can't see this this anywhere else but Cormack has brought in consultants to reveiw the entire football operation. Willie Miller saying its a concern and shows flaws with the current management team. Likely an intrustment to make personnel changes and would seem Cormack has realised the current Directors aren't up to it. Willie Miller is tied up on knots. The way I see it, Cormack has realised there are flows in the current management team. And he’s doing something about it. Not sure what Willie isn’t getting about that? Link to comment
dave_min Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 minute ago, sooth_stander said: Willie Miller is tied up on knots. The way I see it, Cormack has realised there are flows in the current management team. And he’s doing something about it. Not sure what Willie isn’t getting about that? Aye, it’s a rare decent decision from Cormack. About time too. Link to comment
brownie Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 When Goodwin was binned there were a few comments from Cormack that led me to believe that he had concerns about the football operation. As others have said, he's seen there are issues and he (and the US presence on the board IMO) is doing something about it. 1 Link to comment
GeorgeStreetReds Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Find it quite strange how all our statements have quotes from the chairman and not the CEO. Link to comment
JamieMT Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, GeorgeStreetReds said: Find it quite strange how all our statements have quotes from the chairman and not the CEO. Not reading anything into that. Dave Cormack's fairly hands on and i think he's putting himself front & centre of a re-evaluation & rebuild of the off-field football side of the business. Warnock name checked Alan Burrows with regards to his arrival, so he's clearly involved in the change that's been undertaken. Steven Gunn on the other hand, i've not heard a peep about him during all this. 1 Link to comment
Elderadojnr Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, JamieMT said: Not reading anything into that. Dave Cormack's fairly hands on and i think he's putting himself front & centre of a re-evaluation & rebuild of the off-field football side of the business. Warnock name checked Alan Burrows with regards to his arrival, so he's clearly involved in the change that's been undertaken. Steven Gunn on the other hand, i've not heard a peep about him during all this. Fingers crossed that remains the case and Gunn has been sent his jotters Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 What exactly is Gunn getting blamed for? What is his exact remit also? Doubt he would have had the final say in any of the managers appointments. Link to comment
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