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30 minutes ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

Had to laugh at the Jeremy Vine Show this morning when hearing about an alleged new strain of the coronavirus; a Brazilian one. 

How the fuck can they determine where a strain of the virus has come from? Does the new one speak Portuguese??

Just like the posh accent of the one from Kent allegedly doing the rounds, the Cantonese speaking China virus, and the Afrikaans lingual South African virus.

I am now away to put my head in the oven and be done with it as I cannot handle being fed this complete and utter shite anymore. Surely the afterlife is better than what we are currently being subjected to. 

 

It isn't rocket science. It also isn't new (in coronavirus terms)....they've known about the South African and Brazilian mutations since about October/November. The rapidity with which covid is mutating there will already be further new strains

And as I said about a week ago.....in spite of the platitudes presented in the news, the majority of virologists are fairly certain already that any of the current vaccines in circulation (or even still in development) won't be effective against them. And the evidence looks pretty strong that even the Kent strain won't be covered. The scientists think they can "tweak" the current vaccines slightly and they then will be effective against them without requiring a new trialling regime, but you would be looking at a minimum of 6 months for that to come online. But this virus is mutating at a rate of once every 8 weeks or so......17 strains at the last count, it'll be at least 20 by early summer.

Don't expect a return to any sort of normality any time soon

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4 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

It isn't rocket science. It also isn't new (in coronavirus terms)....they've known about the South African and Brazilian mutations since about October/November. The rapidity with which covid is mutating there will already be further new strains

And as I said about a week ago.....in spite of the platitudes presented in the news, the majority of virologists are fairly certain already that any of the current vaccines in circulation (or even still in development) won't be effective against them. And the evidence looks pretty strong that even the Kent strain won't be covered. The scientists think they can "tweak" the current vaccines slightly and they then will be effective against them without requiring a new trialling regime, but you would be looking at a minimum of 6 months for that to come online. But this virus is mutating at a rate of once every 8 weeks or so......17 strains at the last count, it'll be at least 20 by early summer.

Don't expect a return to any sort of normality any time soon

You should have just turned the oven on for him instead. 

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1 hour ago, Ten Caat said:

It isn't rocket science. It also isn't new (in coronavirus terms)....they've known about the South African and Brazilian mutations since about October/November. The rapidity with which covid is mutating there will already be further new strains

And as I said about a week ago.....in spite of the platitudes presented in the news, the majority of virologists are fairly certain already that any of the current vaccines in circulation (or even still in development) won't be effective against them. And the evidence looks pretty strong that even the Kent strain won't be covered. The scientists think they can "tweak" the current vaccines slightly and they then will be effective against them without requiring a new trialling regime, but you would be looking at a minimum of 6 months for that to come online. But this virus is mutating at a rate of once every 8 weeks or so......17 strains at the last count, it'll be at least 20 by early summer.

Don't expect a return to any sort of normality any time soon

Pretty much in stark contrast what is being reported about the current vaccines being effective against the new strains, maybe less so but effective none the less. Also a bit of good news about the AZ vaccine “substantially” reducing the ability for transmission. I’m pretty sure that information is coming from scientific journals published on the lancet. 

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1 hour ago, Ten Caat said:

It isn't rocket science. It also isn't new (in coronavirus terms)....they've known about the South African and Brazilian mutations since about October/November. The rapidity with which covid is mutating there will already be further new strains

And as I said about a week ago.....in spite of the platitudes presented in the news, the majority of virologists are fairly certain already that any of the current vaccines in circulation (or even still in development) won't be effective against them. And the evidence looks pretty strong that even the Kent strain won't be covered. The scientists think they can "tweak" the current vaccines slightly and they then will be effective against them without requiring a new trialling regime, but you would be looking at a minimum of 6 months for that to come online. But this virus is mutating at a rate of once every 8 weeks or so......17 strains at the last count, it'll be at least 20 by early summer.

Don't expect a return to any sort of normality any time soon

That's the opposite of every interview i'v heard.

Everyone of them said that all evidence points to the vaccines being effective against the new strains.

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2 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

You said up there^ 'vaccines won't be effective'. And now quote the Fauci boy saying 'they may be less effective' and even that's disingenuous to how the whole article reads.

 

3 hours ago, Joe pike said:

That's the opposite of every interview i'v heard.

Everyone of them said that all evidence points to the vaccines being effective against the new strains.

Yup, I'm agreeing with how Joe's reading the interviews 

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1 minute ago, frankie_mac's_4 said:

You said up there^ 'vaccines won't be effective'. And now quote the Fauci boy saying 'they may be less effective' and even that's disingenuous to how the whole article reads.

 

Yup, I'm agreeing with how Joe's reading the interviews 

You can think what you like

I'll be proven right

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1 minute ago, Millertime said:

That family taking "captain tom" to Barbados, should be vilified

Long haul flight at that age and that frailty

Gets pneumonia within weeks of coming back then surprise surprise, because he tested positive for covid a week ago, dies and its down to covid

Pathetic and ridiculous 

A stooge for the government to get some good old Dunkirk spirit going in the country,  while they monumentally fuck up their handling of the pandemic.

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4 minutes ago, Millertime said:

That family taking "captain tom" to Barbados, should be vilified

Long haul flight at that age and that frailty

Gets pneumonia within weeks of coming back then surprise surprise, because he tested positive for covid a week ago, dies and its down to covid

Pathetic and ridiculous 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/SirCliffNews/status/1357049724226985985

Russ Abbot to blame IMO

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15 minutes ago, Millertime said:

That family taking "captain tom" to Barbados, should be vilified

Long haul flight at that age and that frailty

Gets pneumonia within weeks of coming back then surprise surprise, because he tested positive for covid a week ago, dies and its down to covid

Pathetic and ridiculous 

Who cares he was 100 years old. I’m sure he’d have rather enjoyed his last few months and taken the risk

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34 minutes ago, frankie_mac's_4 said:

You've disagreed with yourself in last 2 posts - of course one of them will be right

I've said the vaccines will not be effective against the SA and Brazilian strains. And likely not against the Kent strain. I haven't said anything orherwise

What is being fed out to the public is not what the vast majority of virologists are saying. If Boris came out and said on one of his tv updates..."oh by the way, the vaccines we are administering right now aren't effective against the new strains".....what do you think would happen to the uptake? 

 

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40 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

You can think what you like

I'll be proven right

See that’s what’s wrong with the planet today, you have an informed, literate person that has worked within this sector for years in one hand and a useless gobshite with no expertise on anything on the other. Stick them together on the same stage and bingo. Both are seen as having the exact same worth just for balance.fucking hate this false equivalence, all it does it leads mutants to believe the gobshite instead of the cunt that actually knows what he’s talking about!.unreal

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Just now, rocket_scientist said:

Totally agree.

I blame tinternet. Cunts who can read but can't think reckon wiki gives them the power of knowledge.

Experience isn't valued by mutants who lack the discipline to work and learn.

Every cunt's an expert in a'thin.

Yep totally agree for example 

you had pascal lammy and Andrea leadson on just before the Brexit finalisation with Emily maitlis (cow)

talking about the difference in getting a trade deal or dealing with WTO rules

Leadson handed lammy his arse as she was super aggressive and was she that was looking like a specialist on the subject helped by maitlis

what most don’t know was that pascal lammy was the head of the WTO years ago and knows what he’s talking about in this regard but alas it was leadson getting the applause at the end.fucking lunatics 

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2 minutes ago, Redforever86 said:

Like when you said only trained nurses and doctors could inject the vaccine and some cunt fae The only way is Essex or some shite doing it now. 

Aye he’s a real doctor???

was working on the wards during the pandemic

people can do more than one thing in life?

8 minutes ago, Redforever86 said:

Like when you said only trained nurses and doctors could inject the vaccine and some cunt fae The only way is Essex or some shite doing it now. 

Who the guy who is a real doctor? And is on a reality show!,has  been working in the wards through this pandemic and is now vaccinating? That guy, take it a man can only be trained for one thing and only do one job, or is it cause he’s from Essex and sounds like a prick means he is one?.

ps you wouldn’t be allowed to work in the wards unless you had the proper certification to do so!

you really didn’t think that through did you

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