Ten Caat Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 30 minutes ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said: Had to laugh at the Jeremy Vine Show this morning when hearing about an alleged new strain of the coronavirus; a Brazilian one. How the fuck can they determine where a strain of the virus has come from? Does the new one speak Portuguese?? Just like the posh accent of the one from Kent allegedly doing the rounds, the Cantonese speaking China virus, and the Afrikaans lingual South African virus. I am now away to put my head in the oven and be done with it as I cannot handle being fed this complete and utter shite anymore. Surely the afterlife is better than what we are currently being subjected to. It isn't rocket science. It also isn't new (in coronavirus terms)....they've known about the South African and Brazilian mutations since about October/November. The rapidity with which covid is mutating there will already be further new strains And as I said about a week ago.....in spite of the platitudes presented in the news, the majority of virologists are fairly certain already that any of the current vaccines in circulation (or even still in development) won't be effective against them. And the evidence looks pretty strong that even the Kent strain won't be covered. The scientists think they can "tweak" the current vaccines slightly and they then will be effective against them without requiring a new trialling regime, but you would be looking at a minimum of 6 months for that to come online. But this virus is mutating at a rate of once every 8 weeks or so......17 strains at the last count, it'll be at least 20 by early summer. Don't expect a return to any sort of normality any time soon Link to comment
Quagmire Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: It isn't rocket science. It also isn't new (in coronavirus terms)....they've known about the South African and Brazilian mutations since about October/November. The rapidity with which covid is mutating there will already be further new strains And as I said about a week ago.....in spite of the platitudes presented in the news, the majority of virologists are fairly certain already that any of the current vaccines in circulation (or even still in development) won't be effective against them. And the evidence looks pretty strong that even the Kent strain won't be covered. The scientists think they can "tweak" the current vaccines slightly and they then will be effective against them without requiring a new trialling regime, but you would be looking at a minimum of 6 months for that to come online. But this virus is mutating at a rate of once every 8 weeks or so......17 strains at the last count, it'll be at least 20 by early summer. Don't expect a return to any sort of normality any time soon You should have just turned the oven on for him instead. 4 Link to comment
Zeus Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Back to normal by summer. Fuck Covid variants Link to comment
The beard of mcinnes Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 AstraZeneca says it aims to have a ‘next generation’ Covid vaccine ready for use in the autumn which will incorporate some of the mutated variants of concern. Work well underway to design new vaccine structure at Oxford. Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 38 minutes ago, Quagmire said: You should have just turned the oven on for him instead. Genuine laugh out loud there. Startled the faithful hound. Link to comment
daytripping Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Down to 18 new cases in Aberdeen, pubs will be open end of the Month at this rate. Link to comment
jamiesd Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, daytripping said: Down to 18 new cases in Aberdeen, pubs will be open end of the Month at this rate. and shut the week After.? Cases will be low as nae cunt fancies going out in this piss weather for a test. Seriously though...great news. I think. Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 30 minutes ago, daytripping said: Down to 18 new cases in Aberdeen, pubs will be open end of the Month at this rate. ? Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 34 minutes ago, King Street Loon said: Genuine laugh out loud there. Startled the faithful hound. ?. The head in the oven isn't doing the trick. The hairs that make up my fur must be aluminium-based??. 1 Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Ten Caat said: It isn't rocket science. It also isn't new (in coronavirus terms)....they've known about the South African and Brazilian mutations since about October/November. The rapidity with which covid is mutating there will already be further new strains And as I said about a week ago.....in spite of the platitudes presented in the news, the majority of virologists are fairly certain already that any of the current vaccines in circulation (or even still in development) won't be effective against them. And the evidence looks pretty strong that even the Kent strain won't be covered. The scientists think they can "tweak" the current vaccines slightly and they then will be effective against them without requiring a new trialling regime, but you would be looking at a minimum of 6 months for that to come online. But this virus is mutating at a rate of once every 8 weeks or so......17 strains at the last count, it'll be at least 20 by early summer. Don't expect a return to any sort of normality any time soon Pretty much in stark contrast what is being reported about the current vaccines being effective against the new strains, maybe less so but effective none the less. Also a bit of good news about the AZ vaccine “substantially” reducing the ability for transmission. I’m pretty sure that information is coming from scientific journals published on the lancet. Link to comment
Zeus Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 48 minutes ago, daytripping said: Down to 18 new cases in Aberdeen, pubs will be open end of the Month at this rate. Pittodrie soon after so we can shout at mcinnes to GTF 1 Link to comment
Joe pike Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Ten Caat said: It isn't rocket science. It also isn't new (in coronavirus terms)....they've known about the South African and Brazilian mutations since about October/November. The rapidity with which covid is mutating there will already be further new strains And as I said about a week ago.....in spite of the platitudes presented in the news, the majority of virologists are fairly certain already that any of the current vaccines in circulation (or even still in development) won't be effective against them. And the evidence looks pretty strong that even the Kent strain won't be covered. The scientists think they can "tweak" the current vaccines slightly and they then will be effective against them without requiring a new trialling regime, but you would be looking at a minimum of 6 months for that to come online. But this virus is mutating at a rate of once every 8 weeks or so......17 strains at the last count, it'll be at least 20 by early summer. Don't expect a return to any sort of normality any time soon That's the opposite of every interview i'v heard. Everyone of them said that all evidence points to the vaccines being effective against the new strains. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Reduced effectiveness against mutations would be expected when the vaccine is designed with one specific strain in mind. It would have to be a pretty radical mutation to render the vaccine worthless. Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 you lot gettin jabs & lockdowns every year? like the flu one Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Joe pike said: That's the opposite of every interview i'v heard. Everyone of them said that all evidence points to the vaccines being effective against the new strains. They aren't https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/21/dr-fauci-says-covid-vaccines-appear-to-be-less-effective-against-some-new-strains.html Link to comment
frankie_mac's_4 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: They aren't https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/21/dr-fauci-says-covid-vaccines-appear-to-be-less-effective-against-some-new-strains.html You said up there^ 'vaccines won't be effective'. And now quote the Fauci boy saying 'they may be less effective' and even that's disingenuous to how the whole article reads. 3 hours ago, Joe pike said: That's the opposite of every interview i'v heard. Everyone of them said that all evidence points to the vaccines being effective against the new strains. Yup, I'm agreeing with how Joe's reading the interviews Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, frankie_mac's_4 said: You said up there^ 'vaccines won't be effective'. And now quote the Fauci boy saying 'they may be less effective' and even that's disingenuous to how the whole article reads. Yup, I'm agreeing with how Joe's reading the interviews You can think what you like I'll be proven right 1 1 2 Link to comment
Don Fonte Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Millertime said: That family taking "captain tom" to Barbados, should be vilified Long haul flight at that age and that frailty Gets pneumonia within weeks of coming back then surprise surprise, because he tested positive for covid a week ago, dies and its down to covid Pathetic and ridiculous A stooge for the government to get some good old Dunkirk spirit going in the country, while they monumentally fuck up their handling of the pandemic. Link to comment
frankie_mac's_4 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, Ten Caat said: You can think what you like I'll be proven right You've disagreed with yourself in last 2 posts - of course one of them will be right Link to comment
KenDodd'sDad Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Millertime said: That family taking "captain tom" to Barbados, should be vilified Long haul flight at that age and that frailty Gets pneumonia within weeks of coming back then surprise surprise, because he tested positive for covid a week ago, dies and its down to covid Pathetic and ridiculous https://mobile.twitter.com/SirCliffNews/status/1357049724226985985 Russ Abbot to blame IMO Link to comment
Don Fonte Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, KenDodd'sDad said: https://mobile.twitter.com/SirCliffNews/status/1357049724226985985 Russ Abbot to blame IMO Guaranteed to be outed as a kiddy fiddler if he's associating with Cliff. Link to comment
NEM Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, Millertime said: That family taking "captain tom" to Barbados, should be vilified Long haul flight at that age and that frailty Gets pneumonia within weeks of coming back then surprise surprise, because he tested positive for covid a week ago, dies and its down to covid Pathetic and ridiculous Who cares he was 100 years old. I’m sure he’d have rather enjoyed his last few months and taken the risk 1 Link to comment
Joe pike Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, NEM said: Who cares he was 100 years old. I’m sure he’d have rather enjoyed his last few months and taken the risk Exactly. They reckon he caught the covid in hospital. Dangerous places these hospitals if you are ill. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 34 minutes ago, frankie_mac's_4 said: You've disagreed with yourself in last 2 posts - of course one of them will be right I've said the vaccines will not be effective against the SA and Brazilian strains. And likely not against the Kent strain. I haven't said anything orherwise What is being fed out to the public is not what the vast majority of virologists are saying. If Boris came out and said on one of his tv updates..."oh by the way, the vaccines we are administering right now aren't effective against the new strains".....what do you think would happen to the uptake? 2 Link to comment
Dons79 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 40 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: You can think what you like I'll be proven right See that’s what’s wrong with the planet today, you have an informed, literate person that has worked within this sector for years in one hand and a useless gobshite with no expertise on anything on the other. Stick them together on the same stage and bingo. Both are seen as having the exact same worth just for balance.fucking hate this false equivalence, all it does it leads mutants to believe the gobshite instead of the cunt that actually knows what he’s talking about!.unreal 2 Link to comment
Dons79 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 59 minutes ago, Don Fonte said: A stooge for the government to get some good old Dunkirk spirit going in the country, while they monumentally fuck up their handling of the pandemic. Spot on 1 1 Link to comment
Dons79 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, rocket_scientist said: Totally agree. I blame tinternet. Cunts who can read but can't think reckon wiki gives them the power of knowledge. Experience isn't valued by mutants who lack the discipline to work and learn. Every cunt's an expert in a'thin. Yep totally agree for example you had pascal lammy and Andrea leadson on just before the Brexit finalisation with Emily maitlis (cow) talking about the difference in getting a trade deal or dealing with WTO rules Leadson handed lammy his arse as she was super aggressive and was she that was looking like a specialist on the subject helped by maitlis what most don’t know was that pascal lammy was the head of the WTO years ago and knows what he’s talking about in this regard but alas it was leadson getting the applause at the end.fucking lunatics Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Ten Caat said: You can think what you like I'll be proven right Like when you said only trained nurses and doctors could inject the vaccine and some cunt fae The only way is Essex or some shite doing it now. 2 Link to comment
frankie_mac's_4 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 37 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: I've said the vaccines will not be effective against the SA and Brazilian strains. And likely not against the Kent strain. I haven't said anything else Which your quoted Fauci article disagrees with. So aye - either your ineffective vaccine claim or your less effective vaccine quote will be proven right Link to comment
Dons79 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Redforever86 said: Like when you said only trained nurses and doctors could inject the vaccine and some cunt fae The only way is Essex or some shite doing it now. Aye he’s a real doctor??? was working on the wards during the pandemic people can do more than one thing in life? 8 minutes ago, Redforever86 said: Like when you said only trained nurses and doctors could inject the vaccine and some cunt fae The only way is Essex or some shite doing it now. Who the guy who is a real doctor? And is on a reality show!,has been working in the wards through this pandemic and is now vaccinating? That guy, take it a man can only be trained for one thing and only do one job, or is it cause he’s from Essex and sounds like a prick means he is one?. ps you wouldn’t be allowed to work in the wards unless you had the proper certification to do so! you really didn’t think that through did you Link to comment
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