sooth_stander Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Interesting that Richard Gordon added his paragraph regarding McInnes’ future right at the end of his weekly piece in the P&J; no banner headline etc. Wanted to keep it very low key Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, ericblack4boss said: Mcinnes is the fucking master of playing the press, he has had 8yrs of unfettered arselicking, and the last 2 years of non accountability, so perhaps he can't complain when the tables are turned In absolute fairness to the man it’s fair to say he genuinely believes the know our place thing hence he won’t understand the pressure shift. Utterly ingrained. I liken it to a comment once made by a hun about why EBTs weren’t an issue. He reasoned “we’d have won thae titles onyways the tax thing just let us do it in style.” No arguing with that level of indoctrination. Link to comment
Granite95 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 41 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Mourinho is another classic example of a manager who hangs on to things that worked in the past rather than evolving. Slight difference is Mourinhou is a serial winner, look at his time at Porto, won the UEFA Cup then Champions League. Whilst I highly doubt we'l ever win that he at least had the right mentality, something McInnes has never really had the last few years at least Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Granite95 said: Slight difference is Mourinhou is a serial winner, look at his time at Porto, won the UEFA Cup then Champions League. Whilst I highly doubt we'l ever win that he at least had the right mentality, something McInnes has never really had the last few years at least Aye but the point is that Mourinho is very much a yesterdays man now bound by cautious and negative tactics based on similar but less cautious tactics that worked for him in the past. Also the change in his mindset that because of his past achievements he mustn't be questioned. Both of those factors exist with our manager. Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 17 minutes ago, thurso said: What’s Gordon written https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/2876833/richard-gordon-column-aberdeen-squad-needed-a-shake-up-and-there-is-an-even-bigger-one-to-come/amp/ Link to comment
Granite95 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 33 minutes ago, ericblack4boss said: Used it to get a whopping unjustified pay rise from a gullible chairman. One of the wrost thing Milne did was give him that pay-rise. Really has hindered the club as we can't afford to sack him really Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Granite95 said: One of the wrost thing Milne did was give him that pay-rise. Really has hindered the club as we can't afford to sack him really Aye and hun dmc knew full well what he was doing and must have pissed himself laughing Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Granite95 said: One of the wrost thing Milne did was give him that pay-rise. Really has hindered the club as we can't afford to sack him really Dick Gordon seems to think we can Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just listened to lastnights Sportsound. Glad that the great Cammy Bell feels that we as dsns shouldn't expect to achieve any more than 3rd and that's our standing in the Scottish football landscape. Also that we're unreasonable for wanting McInnes gone and should appreciate what we've had and got with him. Thanks Cammy. 1 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Granite95 said: One of the wrost thing Milne did was give him that pay-rise. Really has hindered the club as we can't afford to sack him really There was a genuine buzz in the fan base in the immediate aftermath of him turning down the Sunderland job. But in the aftermath of the Huns situation less than 6 months later the mood was completely different. That period changed everything and trust had gone with a large proportion of the fan base at that point. So many parts of that period smell fishy. McInnes suddenly deciding that Daniel Harvie and Frank Ross were good enough to play against the Huns after barely giving them a second glance prior to that was interesting to say the least Link to comment
Zeus Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, King Street Loon said: Just listened to lastnights Sportsound. Glad that the great Cammy Bell feels that we as dsns shouldn't expect to achieve any more than 3rd and that's our standing in the Scottish football landscape. Also that we're unreasonable for wanting McInnes gone and should appreciate what we've had and got with him. Thanks Cammy. Wish these weegie "pundits" would shut the fuck up. Did anyone point out to the hun we've failed to achieve that for the last 2 seasons and the football we've had to endure in that time has been absolutely atrocious Link to comment
davieb Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, King Street Loon said: Just listened to lastnights Sportsound. Glad that the great Cammy Bell feels that we as dsns shouldn't expect to achieve any more than 3rd and that's our standing in the Scottish football landscape. Also that we're unreasonable for wanting McInnes gone and should appreciate what we've had and got with him. Thanks Cammy. Aye, I listened to that. "Grass isn't always greener" followed by "third place would be seen as a successful season" ... what about the last two seasons then? These thick melts have no clue! Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Millertime said: If you turn down a club that's doing better than you and would pay you more then you deserve a payrise for staying. That's what happens everywhere Publicly turning down 2 jobs in the space of 6 months might be pushing it a bit though MT? Link to comment
Guest Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Millertime said: If you turn down a club that's doing better than you and would pay you more then you deserve a payrise for staying. That's what happens everywhere Were they doing better at the time? Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zeus said: Wish these weegie "pundits" would shut the fuck up. Did anyone point out to the hun we've failed to achieve that for the last 2 seasons and the football we've had to endure in that time has been absolutely atrocious Folk who express an opinion & quote incorrect stats because they’re too stupid or fucking lazy to check should keep their nose out unless they’re aware of the facts. The other day that spastic John Hughes was defending McInnes.... he made a cunt of it because he wasn’t even aware we’d finished 2nd three years in a row Toed the Scottish football line basically saying 3rd or 4th every year, what do they expect. Link to comment
SheepyKnees Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: So many parts of that period smell fishy. McInnes suddenly deciding that Daniel Harvie and Frank Ross were good enough to play against the Huns after barely giving them a second glance prior to that was interesting to say the least Hmm what are you alluding to? ? Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Millertime said: Its utterly bizarre that he turned down 2 bigger offers and is being anything other than lauded for it You're twisted ? Maybe. The first time I'll admit I was chuffed at the time. The second one just a few months later was a completely different feeling. And it wasn't just because it was the Huns although I admit that was part of it obviously. Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 You can fool some of the people some of the time , but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time. Mchunis. Your times up. 1 1 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Millertime said: It was purely that Because of who it was Its sad and warped how much that club affects you all Nah. It was a changing sense of if you're really wanting to go just go then. Link to comment
Granite95 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: There was a genuine buzz in the fan base in the immediate aftermath of him turning down the Sunderland job. But in the aftermath of the Huns situation less than 6 months later the mood was completely different. That period changed everything and trust had gone with a large proportion of the fan base at that point. So many parts of that period smell fishy. McInnes suddenly deciding that Daniel Harvie and Frank Ross were good enough to play against the Huns after barely giving them a second glance prior to that was interesting to say the least Aye the fact he bascially jumped through hoops for them and still managed us when we had 2 games in 4 days wasnt it? Should've been told to make his mind up the day the interest was reported and not allowed anywhere near the squad until he'd chosen. Wish he did take the huns job, wouldve held them back years Link to comment
shut up meg Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 20 minutes ago, King Street Loon said: Just listened to lastnights Sportsound. Glad that the great Cammy Bell feels that we as dsns shouldn't expect to achieve any more than 3rd and that's our standing in the Scottish football landscape. Also that we're unreasonable for wanting McInnes gone and should appreciate what we've had and got with him. Thanks Cammy. They don't get it, on paper we should be 3rd but it's the style of football that's the main issue here. 31 goals in 26 games, a fair chunk penalties or set pieces, a third of the games we've failed to score and the kind of football that would disgust a hearts or st. johnstone fan. Link to comment
Granite95 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: Dick Gordon seems to think we can I mean we can sack him obviously. I just assumed with the financial uncertainty at the moment we wouldn't be entertaining it. I guess with the insurance claim we could get some extra cash in. Still think this summer is the best time for a parting of ways Link to comment
Sheepo Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I am sick of hearing about 3rd and 4th and where we finish. The point that should be to the forefront of the Mcinnes debate is the style of football is absolutely horrific and provides very little entertainment and it has steadily got worse every season he has been in charge Link to comment
slippers Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Sheepo said: I am sick of hearing about 3rd and 4th and where we finish. The point that should be to the forefront of the Mcinnes debate is the style of football is absolutely horrific and provides very little entertainment and it has steadily got worse every season he has been in charge It’s not just the style of play. Finishing 1 point ahead of Motherwell to clinch third and 40 points old firm shouldn’t be regarded success it’s bare minimum. Being 15 adrift of old firm and 15 clear of Motherwell or whoever is 4th is minimum I’d expect. Now hibs are back in division there is more competition with similar budget and hearts will also have similar budget but with neither in league past few years we shouldn’t of even been in a fight for third. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 McInnes pissed me off with the third not being enough comment. Because for me third is enough this season. We need that Europa PO spot so badly. Being a dick about it is another nail in the coffin. For me there is a time and a place to discuss whether we should be targeting 1st, 2nd, 3rd, top six or whatever. Right now we need to get third and hope the scottish cup is either cancelled or won by a top three team. That's life. We need that spot 1 Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Dick Gordon was on Off the Ball just now and more or less repeated what he said in the P&J. Not his opinion, but just what feared will happen. Hibs will be loving this. As I said earlier, I don’t get how sacking him now will benefit us, unless someone available steps right in Tommy Wright, come on down Link to comment
torry_battery_ram Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I have no issue with sacking him. I thought on Tuesday the players were just going through the motions and very few seemed to care. If he has lost the dressing room then get rid while the season is still savable. I just hope this isn't the US investors away to install some unknown American like Romanov did at Hearts with his random Lithuanians Link to comment
OddJob Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 52 minutes ago, King Street Loon said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/2876833/richard-gordon-column-aberdeen-squad-needed-a-shake-up-and-there-is-an-even-bigger-one-to-come/amp/ Good to see he knows the script. At the end of the day RG is a fan like us and is clearly hating seeing the state the club is in Link to comment
Ernie McCracken Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: Dick Gordon was on Off the Ball just now and more or less repeated what he said in the P&J. Not his opinion, but just what feared will happen. Yeah. He must have been given inside info. Derek McInnes job has always seemed pretty safe, even through this latest run. For Richard Gordon to suddenly start saying he fears that McInnes will get the dunt if he loses, he must have been given the nod by someone. Link to comment
daytripping Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I would keep Derek, get rid of Docherty, he's the cancer that needs cut out. Get rid and we'll improve, he's a bully and holding us back. Link to comment
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